Almost a decade ago, the Psystar company created computers called Open Computers that promised to be the inexpensive alternative to the Mac. In most cases, getting a non-Apple computer and running one of their operating systems decently saving money was almost mission impossible. The most normal thing was that, in the end, if there were any savings, it would not be worth it, since the problems we encountered were well worth spending about € 100 more. But times change, software improves and today it can be profitable to do what is known as Hackintosh.
What I do want to make clear from the beginning is that to become a Hackintosh you have to understand enough hardware. I did one several years ago without being an expert. I did it on my little AAO D250 and installed Snow Leopard, but not without spending 4 days with the computer behind me and testing configurations. In the end, most applications did not work because it was a 32-bit computer and I ended up installing Ubuntu on it. I explain this because there will always be a problem if we install OS X on a non-Apple computer.
What is a Hackintosh
The Macintosh was the computer released by Apple in 1984 that was intended to be an inexpensive home version of the Apple Lisa. Since then, Apple computers have been known as Macs. The word Hackintosh is a compound word, or a play on words, linking the words "Hack" and "Macintosh." By definition, a Hackintosh is like a hacked Macintosh so it can be installed on a non-Apple computer or, what is the same, a PC running OS X.
Where to buy a Hackintosh
You can't buy a Hackintosh. On the basis that we are talking about a computer that runs an operating system that is not free and that it should only be used on Apple computers, selling them would be illegalTherefore, we cannot go to a store and ask for this type of computer as we cannot go to a dealer and ask for a car with something not approved. If we wanted something illegal in a car, we would have to get it clandestinely.
That said, yes you can buy a customac to pieces. A CutoMac would be a computer to which we would piece together the hardware that is proven to work better with OS X on a non-Apple computer. This is a good idea for those who know the hardware well and want to use OS X without spending the more than a thousand euros that a Mac costs, but it is not a good idea for those who have never opened a computer. In the tonymacx86 page you have all the information to create a CustoMac of any kind, from one equivalent to a Mac Mini to a Mac Pro through laptops.
Hackintosh compatibility with OS X
In order to install OS X on a computer, it needs to have the Extendable firmware interface (EFI). If you do not have EFI, we will not be able to start the installer via USB and we will not be able to install the system. In addition, the processor must be Intel, since this technology was developed by the famous processor company in 2002.
For everything else, it could be said that any computer that can install OS X can run it to a greater or lesser extent. Here they will come into play the .kext, that we could say that they are like the drivers in the PC.
Once OS X is installed and started, we must configure it so that all the hardware works, which includes Wi-Fi, which for me is the most important thing. To configure it we have to use the tool multibeast, which is a kind of application that has all the drivers for OS X on PCs. If we do not know the hardware of our computer, we can test and test configurations and, finally, get our Hackintosh working. If it doesn't work, you can search the Internet for the necessary .kext files, but for that you have to know exactly which component you are looking for.
Hackintosh problems
You have to be very careful with almost everything you do. By not having official support, any software update can bother one of the .kext and make our Hackintosh not work. For example, imagine that we are bothered by what is necessary to make the image look (rare, but not impossible). If this happens, we will run out of a computer and if we don't have another one, we won't be able to work. To solve it, you would have to find out what happened and how to fix it or reinstall everything and not install that update.
In short, I would say that a Hackintosh will stop working if we don't know what we install.
Is a hackintosh worth it?
As everything in life, depends. As I have explained previously, I had Snow Leopard running on my AAO D250. I uninstalled it because it was not compatible with many applications, but it worked perfectly. That computer is 10.1 ″ and it cost me less than € 200. Can you imagine it being compatible with iMovie, Tweetbot and Apple's native apps? It would have saved me a ton of money.
The same thing I did with that computer can be done with another compatible one. In this sense, buy a € 400 computer to which we put an SSD disk and we increase the RAM to 8GB for about € 600, it is profitable.
The problem? Be left without being able to produce before some unforeseen event. If we work with the computer and we don't have another one that we can use, our main computer stops working, as the problem is evident. If we have to waste time to reinstall everything when we are in a hurry, it is a danger. And that's in the event that we have a USB ready and we know exactly what we did to install it.
So a Hackinosh comes out for the same price as a Mac?
I would say that No.. It will depend on what we spend, but we can have a laptop with OS X for much less money. Of course, if you know how to search and what to do.
On the other hand, we have Mac Pro. Studies were made that said that to have an equally powerful computer assembled by us, we would have to spend more than a Mac Pro was worth, so it doesn't come out for the same price, if not more.
So, if you are considering it and you are a handyman in everything described in this article, you can jump in. If you are not, you are considering buying a computer and you are not afraid to try, you can always try. I'll try it again sometime on my laptop, this time 64-bit. Do you dare too?
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comorl?
Por favor…. let's not make psystar "own" the OSX86 scene ... which is very ugly (among other things because that's what they would like)
Semi-according to the content of the post, as there are good and not too expensive pieces of hardware that can form a cheap and effective hackintosh.
Greetings.
With an EFI "cheater" based on dar86b.ldr and without the real "layer" that EFI provides to mac I doubt very much that anything competent can be done even if the graphics card and the micro are made of molten gold and the motherboard lined of Persian carpet with inlaid silver sequins. Of course, soon you will start to see fish tanks with real EFI on the market ... and at a good price. They are already invented, in fact the EFI is an invention of 2002. It has already rained, already… you give it time…
Hahahahhah what a laugh you give me the people of Mac believing that you are so unique when in reality they sell you a hoot (as they say in my country).
Is your Hackintosh good?
Well, I got a core 2 quad q6600 with 2 gb of kingston ram, a gigabyte normal board, and a nvidia 8600gt 512 ddr2 and this goes smoothly, not a problem, all the updates without having to patch anything at all, card video by efi, I recognize a card that I put firewire 400
ALL FOR LESS THAN € 500
leopard 10.5.4 running smoothly with these no-nonsense apps:
protools le 7.4 (mbox 1), vmware to use programs and games from win, reason 4, ableton live, propellerheads recycle.
photoshop cs3, indesign, quarkxpress, illustrator, freehand, flash… ..
All without crashes and working 100% so rectify those that you say that hackintosh does not work well, if you look for life and find compatible things it is possible, I spent 2 years until I found something that I would like and finally I am enjoying a hack with a 20 ″ screen for about 600….
by the way I am doing a graphic design course and my hack is polished to the imac dual core 2.4 of my class so to rectify! hack if that works !!
and it sounds a lot?
jaca101 do you ask the questions with retintin? are you always kidding? or are you serious about the noise? the noise will do it according to the heatsink you put on the mic ...
The only thing I know is that it is fabulous and it does NOT make any noise.
NO HELL IS WORTH THE SAME A HACK AS A MAC !!!!!
MENUDE BARBARITY !!!
the imac of my 2.4 dual core class is worth about 1000 bucks… my hack less than 600
is a hack then the same as a mac?
DO NOT
> jaca101 you ask the questions with retintin?
No
> Are you always kidding?
Only sometimes, I like to post acidic on many occasions and, be careful, I also mess with Apple a lot.
> Or are you serious about the noise?
Yes.
> the noise will do it according to the heatsink you put on the mic ...
> The only thing I know is that it is fabulous and it does NOT make any noise.
That's because you have mounted a good heatsink, a good fan and a good box ... I imagine.
about the other comment:
Have you reached the component categories section?
Yo, what I'm saying, in short, is that it is cheaper to buy a handful of 1st-class components from Apple in iMac form than another handful of 1st-class components on the street. Another thing is that you have assembled a tank with 2nd or 3rd and you have ... I don't know ... "got lucky"
Does it update well? <<< does not go with tinkle, it is curiosity
Hahahahaha… what a lot of inaccuracies. If you like your mac, perfect.
My Hackintosh goes LIKE A SHOT, NOTHING fails (well, to be fair I will say that the remote control cost to make it work, as well as the wifi and it returned from sleep, but right now it is PERFECT) and it costs 68% less than a Mac Pro, the equivalent in performance after several benchmarks.
For the record, I find them very beautiful and such, but of course, buying a custom computer with hackintosh is a great, great success. When I want to play games, I just have to boot into Windows, and enjoy the 9800GT video card beast.
By the way, for fans of noise, you can always use liquid cooling, and it is very very (very) quiet.
look I have a hackintosh created for about 600 euros quite cheap and it is much better than an apple I assure you
In a couple of years will you tell me if those HackPros work well? without acrimony. I just want to know if they hold up ...
Well the only thing I know is that I have a hackkintosh for 500 euros and it is going to be a bitch it starts much earlier than my mac so imagine.
My hack consists of Intel Core Quad 2.6gh. 4 gb of ram a gigabit board and the only thing that is is worth it because it is much better than i mac.
Above in the post I should have also commented that 3rd party components can cause, in addition to visible errors, long-term operational problems ...
I said, in a couple of years I would like to know if those powerful hackpros are working as they are doing today.
I would love to know what components make up your hackintosh, I would like to test the operation myself, and the only way to do it is by assembling mine, can you please tell me what components it takes
BECAUSE MY HACKINTOSH CARRIES
ONE GIGABYTE BOARD: GA-EP35-DS4
PROCESSOR: INTEL CORE QUAD 2.4GHz
GRAPHICS CARD: nVidia GeForce 8600 GT 512 MB DDR3
RAM MEMORY: 2 * 2 GB
HARD DRIVES: 2 * 500 GB (with one I was also fucking great) xD
AND I NO LONGER HAVE ANYTHING ELSE BUT UNNECESSARY COMPONENTS ACCESSORIES BUT WITH THIS INFORMATION I ASSURE YOU THAT IF YOU DO IT FOR REAL, YOU WILL GET A VERY GOOD PRDENATOR
luck
Alberto, some questions, can you answer them via email?
What food do you need?
What patched version of the leopard have you worn?
Thank you
tirantloblanc.1490@gmail.com
I do not know how the hackintosh will go, but I know that the other day my powermac G5 of 2400 euros of less than 4 years ago screwed up and the worst thing is that there are many similar cases with the same symptoms, I am a Mac fan, I even have a brand new macbook pro ..
But it seems to me that my new computer is going to do a hackintosh, since I can't be without osx, but I won't be spending 3000 euros every 4 years.
If you want more information I'll leave you my email
albertoabreulinde@gmail.com
I see normal that a Power Mac G5 lasts only 4 years, surely it is not something replaceable what has been broken? As long as it's not a motherboard ...
Certainly it is something reponible ... check it first
jack101
What you are trying to say is that a hackintosh team of these:
«INTEL Mainboard
2 Core2,4Duo processor
HD Western Union SATA 500GB
2 GB of Kingston RAM and
NVidia GeForce 8600 GT 512MB DDR3 Video Card
(Uh, I DON'T KNOW IF FOR YOU THESE ARE 3RD COMPONENTS)
It will not work in 3 years ... ??? »
Please, let's be more objective ...
A well-armed hackintosh computer with Leopard xxx, kalyway, uphuck, 10.5.x, will last the same as an original Mac computer for a much lower price ...
Of course, managing a hackintosh computer will never have the same "feelin" and the same "status" that an original Mac gives you, but well ...
I end with this:
THE ONE WHO WANTS A MAC AND HAS MONEY GO TO http://www.apple.com and look for your nearest distributor ...
THE ONE WHO WANTS A MAC AND HAS NO MONEY GO TO http://www.mercadolibre.com and look for the components that best suit you according to your pocket and the distribution of hackintosh that you want to put ... !!!
jack101
What you are trying to say is that a hackintosh team of these:
«INTEL DG31PR Mainboard
2 Core2,4Duo processor
HD Western Union SATA 500GB
2 GB of Kingston RAM and
NVidia GeForce 8600 GT 512MB DDR3 Video Card
(Uh, I DON'T KNOW IF FOR YOU THESE ARE 3RD COMPONENTS)
It will not work in 3 years ... ??? »
Please, let's be more objective ...
A well-armed hackintosh team and with Leopard kaly way 10.5.2, will last the same as an original Mac for a much lower price ...
Of course, managing a hackintosh computer will never have the same "feelin" and the same "status" that an original Mac gives you, but well ...
I end with this:
THE ONE WHO WANTS A MAC AND HAS MONEY GO TO http://www.apple.com and look for your nearest distributor ...
THE ONE WHO WANTS A MAC AND DOES NOT HAVE MONEY, GO TO mercadolibre.com and look for the components that best suit you according to your pocket and the hackintosh distribution that you want to put ... !!!
@makkko:
INTEL DG31PR Mainboard
2 Core2,4Duo processor
HD Western Union SATA 500GB
2 GB of Kingston RAM and
NVidia GeForce 8600 GT 512MB DDR3 Video Card
(Uh, I DON'T KNOW IF FOR YOU THESE ARE 3RD COMPONENTS)
All the configuration you say exists in 1st, 2nd (value) and 3rd (value RASPAO) categories of components except the motherboard that only exists from 2nd… and the hard disk. I had no fucking idea that Western Union, in addition to being the preferred gateway for international scammers, would make hard drives.
Maybe you mean Western Digital? in this case, the caviar is 1st, no matter the capacity.
LOL
Okay, I was wrong, I admit it, but on the HD
In other words, you don't answer what I'm saying ...
Do you think that a team of these characteristics will be useless in 3 years ... ???
Hahaha
Well in any case you can fill the page with technological comments from 1st 2nd or 3rd class, but in the end we all know that a well-armed hackintosh WILL ENDURE USE AND ABUSE, and if I want to put more memory in a clone, I only buy it where else If I want to put more HD on it, I can do it the same way, without having to go to the ABSOLUTE MONOPOLY OF APPLE ...
I'm not saying apple is bad, PLEASE DON'T SAY THAT, the only point is:
(I go back and repeat)
THE ONE WHO HAS MONEY TO BUY A MAC
THE ONE WHO IS NOT IN THE POSSIBILITIES TO CREATE A HACKINTOSH… !!!
End of story….???
In accordance with your two approaches but the original post that I put here talks about equality of components.
Whoever has money should buy a Mac
Whoever does not have it, must do a Hackintosh
and I add:
Whoever does not have it and does not know about computers, who buys a netbook and puts Linux on it, is going to hate computing for the rest of his life and is going to save money in the long run.
A couple of questions:
1.- Why is a basic but reliable server (which can be called a server) more expensive than a Mac? doesn't even have a good graphics card ...
2.- Why are there more and more Mac minis in data centers around the world to provide low-cost dedicated server plans instead of normal clone computers? Is it just because of the space they occupy? nope. For reliability, space and low cost of rack cooling.
and I answer: I DOUBT THAT in 3 YEARS you will have that Hackintosh working as it is now.
Brother, you can't talk about the apple quality test. I have had 4 macs and all with different serious problems 8100, with dead SCSI disk after a short time (safe for the guarantee) 7300 baby, with irreversible damage to the mother (later I found out that it was a frequent problem) Beige G3 with problems in the mother too, out of warranty because it was after the year. Finally iMac Indigo DV400 with source problems, expensive repair and no results, also the CD player was damaged (that coupon that has failed in all the mac I know since it appeared) Now the new apple joke is the failure in the LCD monitors, which nobody takes care of, at least in Argentina. So where is the quality control? where is the care for the client? where is the care for the brand? in Argentina apple sucks.
Of course, OSX is the operating system that I like the most, but only that.
Another point, here a mac costs a lot, but much more than a well-armed clone, so that statement does not apply to this market, where hackintosh are sprouting up everywhere.
regards
I have a Toshiba laptop with OSX 10.5.5, upgradeable, working 100%, working with Photoshop, Premiere, Vmware ... and the usual basic applications, Word, iTunes, aMSN, etc ...
My laptop was worth € 700 1 year ago, now much less .. And it still has better hardware than the cheapest macintosh, which is about € 1000 or more.
Who Said Hackintosh Were Bad?
Of course, it took me a long time to find the right way and the drivers to install it but… And what have I learned from OSX? That counts too 😉 .. And the happy ending too 😉
Hello Hugo. Can you tell me where I can get the specifications of a laptop that works well with leopard?
Thank you
Hello Israel,
That is the big question. In principle you can find information in the following links, or by searching in google:
uphuck.com
Hackintosh
insanelymac.com
That is where you can start, greetings.
Good news: I have a friend with the latest iMac G5 from the PPC series, who had the famous dead pixel flaw on the lcd. He contacted the people of Alfa Uno (one of the mac dealers in Buenos Aires) and they told him that if his machine was within a range of serial numbers, he would have repair without charge, which indeed happened.
It seems that part of the first world is approaching the south….
farid silva aboid: That, although offtopic for the post, is very good news. I was tired of always reading bad news about the Apple service in Argentina. Let's see if it serves as a precedent and they start to behave better, I imagine that Apple will be putting things in its place when it comes to distributors.
Yes
Hello, I have been a Mac user since 1990. I have only used Mac. In these 19 years of user, 2 SE (7,8Mhz) have passed through my house, which later were SE30 (16 Mhz), a Quadra 950 (33 Mhz) , a Ci (25 Mhz) (motorola) 1 Power 8100/80 (the first of the ppc series), 1 power 9600, 1 G-4 of 1 processor, 1 G-4 2p, 1 G-5 (ppc) 1 Imac 24 ″ (Intel).
I have never had any interest in computing and computers have simply been great tools for me.
But I always bought machines with which as soon as I unpacked them I started to work with them and get the most out of them.
My computers were always more expensive than PCs. And it always bothered me a lot to have to pay too much. But I have made profitable every peseta, before and every euro now, that I have invested in them.
I would also buy a hackintosh that was guaranteed to work just as well for me as a Macintosh.
But I don't have the time to learn computer science, and I prefer to do the experiments with soda.
Let no one think that those of us who buy Macs are arrogant, that there will also be. Not a few wasteful. Not some fools in the ass who do not know what is good.
Apple today gives me an expensive but proven machine. And for now I will continue to buy Apple, until I find an option that is equally valid and at a better price, with the same guarantees, and that does not require a "seasoned engineer and McGyver" to repair it and can take it to any of the Apple Centers in the area in which I live.
Thank you for your time and for understanding those of us who, even supporting your initiative, continue to bet on that expensive machine that provides you with a role model.
Well, I have installed Windows XP in the refrigerator at home and it is going great, and also by upgrading to Windows Vista you convert it without wanting to a microwave. . heh heh. . .
Now seriously. . I can put the bmw 124 series engine on my wonderful seat 3, and it will surely walk great, at full throttle, and if I put the series 3 shock absorbers or similar it will also be stable, and if I put the wheels, the tires, the address etc etc, I will have almost a series 3 with the upholstery of a seat 124, and surely it will ride great and it will be super stable, but hell, the day I have to repair it. . change something, where I take it, the Seat or the BMW. . .
Something similar happens with these hackintos, which I think is very geek to become one, but if next year I have to change the graph because it has been screwed up (which can happen to a mac as well of course) I have to find the same or the system will go to hell. . .
And something that nobody has commented. . .And when the Snow Leopard comes out? Whoever has a Hackintos will install it quietly at the risk of losing all the work on their computer. . safe? . .
I don't put my job at risk, and that's why I have a Mac Pro 8 core, but of course if I wanted it to mess around at home and see what a MacOs is like, I'd have a hackintosh. . but you don't play with eating things
A greeting. . Josemacpro.
At last!! I was already worried you guys wouldn't show up, mackeros. I felt so alone here ...
Enlighten us with your wisdom, Fatboss.
We are eager to learn.
Well, what do you want me to tell you? I have a black MacBook from 2 years ago and, I have had some other problem, which by the way, the technical service repaired them - although one, half - being under warranty.
Now, I also have a hackintosh and it is going great. There are a lot of distributions that work perfectly. That doesn't contradict my liking Macs. In fact, I'm really looking forward to either a 24 ″ iMac, or a Led Cinema Display but… let's face it, for the price of the iMac I like, I have two hackintosh! (at least) and the good ones. And for the record, I have converted to Mac, or rather Leopard (before it was from Güindows).
Do not be carried away by the snobbish proselytizing of the people. Hackintosh are doing well. Very well. Yes, yes, Macs are prettier, but… hackintosh work like a shot.
Hello starman,
Seeing how well the havkintosh is doing for you, could you set the specifications for both soft and hard?
Thank you
@josemacpro
Well, look, brother, the moment something is damaged in your "car", and you are hesitant to take it to the SEAT or to the BMW, I will be working on the car's engine, repairing it myself and saving myself a fortune; since the knowledge that I acquired during the assembly of the machine will be enough to be able to defend myself on my own without having to be desperate running to the BMW or the SEAT ...
PD.- You made an adaptation of that type in your car and when something is damaged you do not know where to go ... ???
I think that in the end you did not make that adaptation to your car, because if you had done it yourself, you would know exactly what to do ... !!!
You will see israel. My hackintosh is made up of:
-GigaByte GA-G33M-DS2R Motherboard (micro ATX)
-Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 CPU (3GHz)
-4 GB Ram DDR2
-Asus 8600 GT Graphics Card (passive cooling)
-And a few "legacy" HD's from other PC's
The distribution I use is iDeneb 10.5.5 (updated to 10.5.6) and I really don't have a single problem.
Now, since I have had the computer mounted for more than a year, the new current motherboards allow you to install the 10.5.6 ORIGINAL, starting from the base of a Linux installation disk. I personally tested it on a friend's GigaByte GA-EP45-UD3R, and except for the sound, Core Image and Quartz Extreme, I had to install it "by hand" (and which, by the way, took less than 2 minutes to install the right drivers) works like a charm and like a shot. The graphics card was a GigaByte 9600 GT (passive ref.).
I refer you to the typical forums of this type of machine for more detailed information. And if you have any more questions, you know, here you will find me.
Greetings.
I have an imac g5 that is a big piece of shit, the monitor no longer works and because of the mini vga output or whatever it is called it gives me video errors on the external screen so the manufacturing quality - 50% by shit, instead my pc of $ 400 C2D 6750 2 GB of ram with a 22 ″ monitor not like the mac of 17 for $ 1100 or something like that I no longer remember how much it cost me it has never given a hardware failure, and I really adore win XP sp3 and windows 7 !!!! I have the two installed on different disks, one of 500GB and a new one of 750 GB (I also have the hackintoch on a 20 GB disk to make mac disk formats on the pc)…. The only reason why I use mac is for the rest of Logic Pro I would give it away since I don't like to sell garbage…. Mac is fashionable, its white color and its attractive design is what it sells but its hardware is always obsolete when it comes out…. AH! and all their video cards suck, except the quadro ones !!!! Greetings and do not buy mac !!!!
Hello everyone, look, I'm thinking of building a hackintosh, well a powerful one since I have one that runs very well with the uphuck 10.4.9 but it must be because of the hardware that I have that is not very fast ha, well, What I would like to know and that is the reason and the reason why I came to find this page is that I am looking for the ideal components to have a powerful machine that is equivalent to or better than a MacPro, which is the machine that I use in my work , I design and I want a machine like that but at home and I don't have the money to buy an original Mac. I would appreciate your help with this issue ... Thank you very much
I forgot something apart from the hardware if you could tell me which is the hack system that is better and that recognizes everything, because I think that sometimes there are problems with the video and the sound, if I write something outrageous then I hope you know how to understand that I have just started in this but I want to learn ... Thank you
Maybe because the site to find information about it is not this but insannelymac.com
Hehehe ... It seems that, in the end, the question is to fight 🙂
What if Mac, what if hack ...
For me, the truth is everything is very simple.
Can someone make the recipes offered by Ferrán Adrià at El Bulli at home?
Yes.
Can someone at home improve (or adapt to your tastes) these recipes?
Yes.
And, undoubtedly, if you make the recipes of Ferrán Adrià (or another) at home, your level and knowledge of cooking will increase in proportion to the difficulty of the recipe.
But (because there is always a but) that implies a more or less deep investigation of the ingredients, techniques, utensils, etc. This research will involve an investment in time and / or money.
Is everyone willing to make that investment?
No.
Are most people worth that investment?
No.
That is why El Bulli exists. That's why Apple exists.
And for me there is no more.
Surely a well-crafted hack will work the same or better than a Mac, and will surely last the same or longer. Plus the happy owner will be proud to see how smooth the machine he built "with these little hands" runs. And is not for less. But that machine is the happy ending of a story that began with many hours of googling, pages in English, headaches, "I don't understand anything," and trial and error.
My congratulations to the owners of a powerful hack. You deserve it.
I simply prefer to pay a little (or a lot, depending on how you look at it) more, and invest my time in other things that attract me, and not worry about models, compatibilities, versions, etc.
I take it out of the box, turn it on, and it works.
Two ways to do the same. Both respectable. Both meritorious. Each one with its advantages and disadvantages.
And let each one choose the path they prefer to take. 🙂
PS: Often a man meets his destiny on the path he took to avoid it.
Masterful… I couldn't have defined it better… no, it hadn't even occurred to me to develop your approach… Thank you very much.
Edward, I'm not up to date with the hacks on the market today to do it right.
I would like to know who recommends me the parts for a very good hack, and I read options, some give me several or a more specific one
Thank you
"Only the fool confuses value with price"
A Mac has nothing to do with a PC. Before I was quite critical of maqueros, until I was able to try one on a daily basis. And at least for now, I'm not going back to PC.
Mount a hackintosh? Well, it may be an idea, although having a totally stable operating system, that who knows if it can become unstable, that it is not known if it will accept updates, that I do not know if it will get along well with my network card, that I do not know if he's going to get along with my sound card ...
Better everything mounted and working. Of course, to taste the colors. What I like the most is that everyone is free to choose the option that seems best to them, and if they are satisfied with it, then go ahead.
Hello, could someone tell me what configuration to install in a compaq nw8000? The only thing that I have managed to make work is 10.4.5 but I need at least 10.4.9 because there are many programs that require it, I have already tried with a lot of versions but nothing, I cannot start with any type of software. 4.5: C
On the other hand I have a quad pc, which by the way is luxurious, I installed the ipc 10.5.6 version, everything works perfect not once has it crashed and updated? ' for ke! If it goes great, I have it with a p5kpl-am board and a gt9400 nvidia graphics,
If you give me a hand, someone with the compaq laptop will appreciate it,
Mhm that micro does not bank a leopard or crazy, it would walk much better with ubuntu linux than with osx.
OSX is not a light system but very demanding. It gives a lot, but it demands iron and that laptop is a bit out of date.
Hello.Thanks for answering.You are right, with Leopard I have tried and nothing, there is no way, in the end I have managed to install the latest version of tiger, 10.4.11, the truth is super good, it detects the graph well, with quartzextreme included And the sound is good, the network I have not tried because I am not going to use it for the internet, if it is true that it is already out of date but with tiger if you can, better also, because it yields something more, leopard demands more. Greetings.
Hello there:
Well, after having read the comments both here and there, suggestions from acquaintances, those not so well known and some other information, I deduce that this is Madrid - barca and some from Betis.
I am interested in acquiring a machine to work with audio, that is, to produce music by connecting an external audio card, midi keyboard, etc., and to do direct with it, all in a jobie plan. It is clear that when you see a dj with a keyboard performing live, he has his little apple lit up, is it to show off?
Could you give me data to build a good machine that is around € 700 for example without the monitor, thanks
I bought a pc, very expensive about € 1000 in its time, now it is worth half, 2,33gh, 4 ram, and apart from the screen about € 1300 in total + 8800GT, € 150 (desktop) I played from time to time, but I had money and I hit the cat oooo_oooo a macbook pro 2,2gh, 2 of ram buafff 1850 € I buy it or now or never, the English court and pa home a month waiting uffff, I assure you that it works much better than my pc more or less the same hardware, windos clear view.
I NO LONGER PLAY, LEOPARD TAKES MY SLEEP AWAY AND IF I DON'T GET A MAC PRO OR A MAC HACK I WILL FALL SICK.
Do you know what the apple logo is? yes, yes, think about the apple that Eva bit. If you have it in your hands you are lost. I hear windows or linux and they bow.
I have at least 10 computers at home between laptops and desktops, I only use macbook pro.
explicitly about the title of this Threat, I DO NOT SEE TRUE that a hackintosh costs the same as an imac,
I currently have a core2duo 2.54 GHZ, 6 GB RAM, 2 HD SATA 250 GB, nvidia Geforce 9600 GT 521 DDR3, Intel PD35DP, DVDRW-DL LG; all for less than $ 750 (including viewonic 19 TFT 1680x1050 monitor + 2 creative soundwoofer speakers)
I have Windows XP and OSX Leopard 10.57 (IPC), running and everything is going very well, without any problem and working with design programs Suite Adobe CS3, I have even run games like call of duty 4 and they are going great !.
The benchmark time I compare them with the macpro, (not even the Imac XD) therefore it came out cheaper.
One thing is true, it is not easy to get a hackintosh to work well, IT DEPENDS A LOT ON THE HARDWARE COMPATIBILITY AND A CORRECT INSTALLATION. I have had to go through 10 installations to get everything working.
I do not rule out buying a MAC later but that a MAC costs the same as a hackintosh does not have much foundation. Well, Pystar IS NOT THE ONLY WAY to do it with one.
Hi, I finally bought a laptop: (HP DV72035ea)
I have made a first attempt and installed the ideneb 10.5.5 and it installed without problems.
I have seen the following boat soon:
- I do not recognize the drivers of the graphics, so I have only 1024 resolution and I don't know how to apply a patch or "kext" (which I don't know exactly what it is) to make it work. (the card is an ATI RADEON HD 4530)
- the wireless does not go or I do not know how to configure it
- the sound does not go
- After a while of using it, the OS hangs and does not respond, having to restart.
What I can do?
Thank you
Hi there.-
Let's see if someone advises me ... I have a humble producer, and I'm going to change my team (and system or PC -> MAC philosophy, it was about time) ... the thing is, I need a very powerful bug since most of my Jobs (with which I earn a living, not as a hobby) would have to be done with Final Cut, After Effects, Reason, and programs that need a lot of power ... also editing many times in HD.
I want a machine that goes smoothly with these programs and with HD (with what I need Teras instead of Gigas), that does not give me hardly any problems and that if it fucks me, it will be operational as soon as possible (because the day I ask, the day I lose money).
I did a quick configuration of a MACPRO in MAC STORE and more or less putting the characteristics that I think I will need (8 cores, 16 ram, good graphics card, a lot of hard disk space, etc ...) it sets the thing for 4000 € approx.
The truth is that now thanks to a grant I have that money, but it is clear that it is a step for a computer (on the other hand it is my work tool), but if a hackintosh comes out in half I can catch other equipment that I also need.
Well to the mess ...
Can you do a hackintosh of those features that I made sure of everything that I have specified before?
Is a hackintosh with a MAC but giving the same ass of a PC (in terms of configuration and maintenance of Soft and Hard)?
Better not risk it and spend the pelas sacrificing other more secondary needs ?.
Well that, enlighten me that I need it like that, and thank you in advance for your answers.
"Salud"
Pd.- hackintosh would not do it, they would do it to me
Thanks Farid, but my English is limited ... if there is something on that page that answers any of my questions, I would appreciate it if you could give me a summary ... thanks anyway.
"Salud"
Here is a Spanish version http://www.insanelymac.com/forum/index.php?showforum=94
Here is a guide also in Spanish
http://www.taringa.net/posts/mac/2948086/Instalar-Mac-OS-X-Leopard-en-una-PC-con-el-dvd-original.html
I have armed a hack with the following configuration
MacPro Mac OS X 10.5.6 (Build 9G55)
Case: Vitsuba VTB-8030 black
Mobo: Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd. EP35-DS3L
Intel Core2 Quad Q6600 2.4Ghz
Graphics: MSI nVidia GeForce 8500 GT 512Mb (CI/QE)
LAN: onboard working without patch
Sound: line in, line out, headphones, digital
RAM: 4GB Kingston 800Mhz
HD: SATA II Hitachi 400Gb. 16MB buffer. GPT (GUID)
DVD: PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-212D (SATA)
Geekbench 2.0.11 for Mac OS X x86 (64-bit): 5338
Although I do not use final cut for lack of necessity, I once ran it without problems, the same as premiere CS4 and iMovie
Hi Farid… thank you again for your comment.
I'll tell you, the issue is that I'm not going to assemble the computer, a pive gives it to me assembled and more or less with the specifications that I request ...
I have gone into MAC STORE and I have made a MACPRO configuration that I think I would need (and I have cut myself a bit because I know that I can expand it later)
Two 2.26GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon
8GB (4x2GB)
640GB 7200-rpm Serial ATA 3Gb / s
1TB 7200-rpm Serial ATA 3Gb / s
2x NVIDIA GeForce GT 120 512MB
One 18x SuperDrive
Apple mighty mouse
Apple Keyboard with Numeric Keypad (Spanish) & User Guide
Apple Mini DisplayPort to VGA Adapter
TOTAL: € 3400
My question is not how to do a Hack, maybe if you can do one with those characteristics (with a yes or a no it works for me) ... but apart from that, if it is not going to give me any kind of problem, both the soft and the Hard, no kind of problem as you are not supposed to give me a MACPRO ...
I work on my own on video issues and with my current equipment (somewhat outdated in terms of the micro and the motherboard, but with a good graphics card and a lot of RAM which is sometimes what matters) because I can't edit directly in HD, yes in SD, but hours for the renders, every two by three it crashes (sometimes the program, others the PC), when I make some posters I pass them if it is in a format larger than an A4 or if it has many layers, and Then there is the After Effects themes which I am using a lot now, but it is an ordeal when I give it more than 3 layers, or some effects, no preview, infinite renders and sometimes just that a frame appears to me is a while ... in summary I have to change teams, from there I switch to MAC which is ideal for my job.
But he has told me about a guy who sells Hacks already assembled at half the price of a MAC, the issue is if the Hack has the same problems as the PC, if it is going to block me every two by three, if they are going to enter me virus, if the configuration is going to be a pain in the ass, if the update is possible.
In summary, why don't I have to buy a HACK and if a MAC? ... is that on the contrary I know the answer: for the price.
Does anyone have a Hack with the characteristics of a MACPRO (8-core), and if so, does it go just as well or badly as if it were a MACPRO?
Are HACKs more reliable than MACs?
Thanks and best regards
Let's see, in the iron is not the problem but in the operating system.
The great apple card, in my opinion, is not called mac, but osx. I'm not going to speak against the beauty of Apple's industrial design but the greatness of OSX.
At that point a good vanilla leopard or snow leopard install should work almost as well as a native Mac. I say almost because it is NOT a native mac, with which there will be certain minor differences to which it will be necessary to get used to. But those differences are well worth Eur1700 (always in my opinion)
I have a quadCore 6600 with 4Gb of RAM and 500Gb of disk that works really well on a Gigabyte EP35-DS3L motherboard, I don't have the slightest complaint and I screw it all the time (although I don't do video)
The virus and Trojans issue is solved with a good firewall like little snitch and reasonably healthy behavior on the net. You will be free of windows viruses because the system is NOT windows, which lowers the chances of infection to less than 20/25% and that is only one point in favor.
Another difference is that the same iron works much better and more stable with osX than with Bosta windows.
I use an aluminum apple keyboard and the only function that does not respond is the brightness of the monitor, everything else is perfect
I also have a wacom board instead of a mouse and I can't complain about anything.
That if, that the installation is as vanilla as possible, that is, the most native that can be achieved.
Thanks again Farid.
Well, the truth is that it has become a little clearer to me, we know that what matters in the compatibility is not so much the Hardware but the operating system and that with a Hack it goes "perferct".
And to finish nagging you ... could you tell me what are those minimal differences that I would have to get used to? (so above).
And by the way, does the hardware of a hack not interfere with the correct installation of any software for MAC or with having the OSX, is it okay? Are they all compatible?
Man, thank you very much for answering me and I feel the barrage of questions as if from a reporter to a famous person, but I don't have enough € and I have to know where I am.
Who could give me good reasons why I buy a MAC instead of HACK? , it's a MAC forum someone will have them (I guess) ... thanks.
"Salud"
mosky
There is a question, the hack is almost a mac and that is noticeable in for example sleep problems in some machines, other problems in the shutdown that does not respond well, but they are not serious minor differences. Obviously it is not plug and play like an imac but you have to assemble it with proven components, install and test if everything works, if not look for solutions in the forums and things like that.
I only have incompatibilities with cider games, everything else so far works without problems. (cs4 suite, ilife, neooffice, various utilities, filemaker, etc ..)
Well, look, I mount PC computers with macintosh and they go shooting for about 600 euros with what I, amd and intel, gigabyte and asus motherboards, 9600 gt video cards, 4 gb of ram at 800 mhz, dual core processors from this 2,7 pa up, 500 hard drive, wifi d-link, etc etc etc and nothing fails and for 130 euros more with a panoramic 22-inch screen, because in the end you get everything about 730-750 euros tower plus screen. Who is interested can call me 654502414 I am from Barcelona and I have sold more than 500 units so far or an email iannolsen@yahoo.es Greetings and do not be fooled. In addition to everything I leave the computer with guarantee and dual bot windows + mac
As I said, do not be fooled because what some say is lies, the hackintosh that I mount are updated normally without patching anything from the mac menu both intel and amd because the hardware that I mount in the tower is 99% compatible with all software and Mac operating system depending on the power you want I can offer you some good hackintosh that usually cost between 500 and 1000 euros, in addition to all this with dual boot (windows + mac) or triboot (windows + mac + linux) and a variety of essential programs in all operating systems, bone mac, win and linux. who wants a budget without obligation can call me at 654502414 or send me an email iannolsen@yahoo.es.province from barcelona and surroundings, free demonstration and everything. a greeting
Hack without a doubt, although the "cool" thing is the apple logo ...
No problems from installing Leo (iAtkos 5i), updates without problem, final cut 3 working, nvidia with ci / qe enabled ... even a usb hub that linux did not "see" works for me without problems.
Again, if you have money buy a mac (or a much more powerful hack;)), if you don't have buy a normal hack.
By the way, for those who talk about the durability of a hack ... mine is already 2 years old, goes for 3 and is the most polite, does not give problems and does not make the slightest noise (it is an asus clone core 2 duo that me It came out for 475 euros with a 19 screen included).
In short, durability does not only depend on the brand. Much more influences the treatment that is given.
Thanks Ov3r0n.
I'm still thinking about the coconut, also rumors have reached me that Apple is going to make something new and I suppose they will lower prices ...
The issue is that the machine is not to be used as a personal computer but for a company of a video production company ... hence wanting to be sure of what I am going to buy (something that is safe, does not give me problems, and something that you do not have to be a computer connoisseur as far as hard is concerned to be able to use it).
Just one question, if the Hack suits you so well why do you recommend that if I have money that I buy a mac? (I have the money, what I don't want is to throw it away, or pay more for a logo)
Thank you very much
Pd.- iann forgives that I have not commented on anything you put, but since I see that you are dedicated to selling Hack I consider with all the respect in the world, that you are not entirely objective ... I suppose that one who sells MAC would paint his product as the best.
Look, the Hack can go great, it can even go faster than an original mac in many cases but if it is for what you say and a company depends on the device working 100% and that it never makes you a bitch like "no I can start the piticlusclis32 module because there is an error in the piticlones of the tapiporla64 module »pay the logo. Man, it's not just because you bring a little apple, seriously, Apple's hardware, although it's not the latest in the latest news in terms of micro and graphics, it is hardware totally in line with the operating system that it brings ... I repeat: totally consistent, that is, without weird patches or freaks that make OS X work on hardware not designed and assembled specifically to run this system.
Hacks are for those who like to mess around with technicalities, if not, manzanita!
Thanks Jac101, comments like yours are what make me convince myself that spending 3000-odd bucks to catch the MacPro is the best option.
Also, the one I'm looking for is the 8-core one ... Has anyone done an 8-core hack, are we going with 2 Quad-Core processors?
Thank you
I see that this post has a long tail.
All this jakintosh seems very nice to me, you talk as if it were easy for everything to work when in reality it is not at all. I have tried with 2 laptops and without success, obviously due to a lack of hard requirements and of course, the lack of deep knowledge of the subject.
Why don't you also count that it costs a hell of a lot to make everything work properly? And I am not worth telling me, I have managed to make everything work except the audio and the wifi I have to tap a USB !! or it cost me that the remote would work.
Surely some of those who work with Jakintosh will be figures of piracy, you will have a good command of the English language and you will have been soaked in websites in that language talking about the hardware requirements and then the EFI emulation, how it is done, the formatting the hd and change the partition table etcc.
It's not fair to say that a jakintosh is worth getting.
It would be more fair to say that it is worth it if you understand the subject to be able to face hours and hours of problems, for that you have to have time, time that many of us do not have.
A jakintosh will be feasible for those of you who have a deep understanding of the subject that is worth it, but for the layman in the field, buying a hard to try to make everything work without guarantees of success is absurd. . Maybe if you have a few aurelius left over, I think that as experimentation it can be interesting.
And what about the post that says that if it makes noise you can always use liquid refrigeration …… .hehe that's horny !!! and if you buy a 200 € aluminum box, and a fountain without fans and etcc
Then you plant yourself in the same investment as an apple, WITH A HUGE BOX OF LARGE CUCKS, and so that later I have no noses for the equipment to work for me.
What do you want me to tell you ……… ..to me it does not seem economical or practical to have a pc tower based on grafts to a simple imac without cables without noise and with a guarantee of correct operation.
Everything is a matter of point of view, my free time is scarce and it does not deserve me at all to save € 400 (from a 600 pc mounted as you say to a € 1000 imac) the truth is not worth it at all, as experimentation but from there to the rest …… NOT worth it.
PD I finished up the webs with the 2 laptops, one a toshiba and the other an ibm, both supposedly had worked in the jakintosh of some web pages but in my case without success.
Greetings.
and I'll add more:
1: I do have time but I prefer to spend it programming some chorra app for mac or iphone than hitting my head against a PeCera
2.- I know English, I am not a native speaker but to read websites with documentation and howtos no problem. I still prefer to read more about Xcode to learn things that can pay off and it is fascinating.
3.- I prefer to spend 1000 to throw 600
Moski: there are serious rumors of renewal of the iMac but I have not read anything about renewing the Mac Pro ... The 8 core there is, however, is a brown beast and you will not regret it.
First of all, I exclude the $ 2900 macPro from what I am going to say (it has 2 intel Xeons).
Well ... I read the topic and ...
I totally disagree; apple does NOT make anything for a mac (except mouse + keyboard + case) I invite those who have macs to uncover them;). On the other hand, if we are going to compare pieces please don't do it because they make me laugh a lot; Let's look at parts Core2Duo? Geforce 9600? Max 8 gb of ram ?.
I exclude macPro because it has two processors, but if not for that ... a hack with core i7, 25 GB of ram, Geforce GTX290 and 4TB of disk + monitor ... etc. etc. would make you take the macPro for your little brother to play mario bros. (and it costs $ 200 less, for you to buy a liquid cooling kit = P).
Why buy mac? You have money, warranty, support, and an apple.
Why build a Hack? Cheaper, it runs the same (or better), it is upgradeable and there is the possibility of overclocking.
Carlos: It does NOT depend on hardware, I would dare to say that almost any modern pc that is mostly Intel is capable of running mac; it depends on the distribution you are installing.
Jaca101: The renewal is that they are going to change the current Xeon for Core i7 (that Xeon is already very old xD).
Ah… to score….
Running OSX 10,5,8 on Hackintosh
Core 2 Quad Q9650, Gigabyte GA-EP35-DS4, 8GB ram, Geforce GTX280, 500GB Disk; It costs a little more than an imac but it can't compare in performance, I use it for Adobe's bundle and video editing.
Zero patches, everything working 100% And believe me… this feline learned to swim because he loves PeCera xD.
PS: Seriously, let's face it, the OSX86 project is not one or two years old and I don't think it was an accident that Apple switched to core2duo ... that smells like weird marketing to me.
Beyond the fanaticisms and all the "isms" the reality is that Apple is migrating to a compatible hardware architecture after missing the train on the closed path that I used before.
This compatible hardware gives you the possibility to exploit well what you really have: Design and operating system.
I don't buy apple because in Argentina it is much more expensive and generally bad. I have a long history of unsolvable hardware failures from the 8100 onwards, so I pay for its OSX + keyboard + mouse and the rest I put together.
Those who cannot understand English have a good starting point here
http://www.miliuco.net/tiger/tiger_juker.html
Thank you jaca101 for the rumor ... if I've been looking and I haven't found anything, not even what Henry says about the i7 micros, what's more, they say that the Xeon is better, but of course there are opinions for all tastes .. so official I have not seen anything ... henry where did you see the news ?.
Since I am and although this should be asked in a video editing or 3d forum but hey surely here you can also help me.
Is there much difference in performance between a MacPro with a 2,66 GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon "Nehalem" processor (the 4-core) or a 2,26 GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon "Nehalem" processor ( the 8-core)?
Is there a lot of difference between 2,66 Ghz and 2,26? It is that in an 8 core, putting two 2,66 processors instead of the two 2,26 is a whopping € 1260 !!! ... a pass right?
Another little thing, in principle I'm going to get the safest thing than the 8-core one, but I want to make extensions (RAM and Hard Disk), if I catch the basic one, will I have problems putting other memories or Hard Disks that I can buy separately? (Of course not in an apple store or any official store, but compatible ... is that any application comes out a peak (although I just looked at the RAM memories and they are very smart, the basic one brings 6Gb but repaired in 1 Gb for 1 × 6 slot, so you only have two free slots of 8 that it brings ... and the 8Gb configuration is 4x2Gb ... damn what a mess.
Does anyone know what manufacturer is the Apple LED Cinema Display 24 ″ monitor? ... for now I will be pulling with my two LG, but in the future who knows.
By the way, do I get it now, I wait for Christmas or better after Christmas? I say it in case the prices vary.
Thanks and best regards
mosky
Moskis: The theory is that prices will drop a little after the introduction of new products. It is read by the Mackera blogosphere that possibly January 2010 https://www.soydemac.com/2009/09/28/rumor-nuevos-imac-en-muy-poco-tiempo/
Henry:
1.- It is obvious that after the long experience of the i7 they will be implanted in Macs but, can you document it for us?
2.- I have recently disassembled my Macbook Pro and have personally browsed and tested many of the components on a testboard and as I prayed years ago, the tolerance and margin of error is less than 1%. Brands and models the same but curiously with less than + -1% compared to more than + -7% of value retail and + -5% in models "with box" (same brand and model of cards, hard drives, motherboards, etc…
However, it does not mean that a fish tank has to go wrong, a + -7% only makes it work 10% more to control software vs. hardware errors (electronic / digital errors) but as the machine is much fatter, that 90% is greater than the almost 100% efficiency of the Mac.
Hello ... the "news" is everywhere, and although it is actually a rumor, I do not see it very far.
Regarding the MacPro (and from my own experience) I can tell you that for video and 3D, the 8-core one is completely BESTIAL (I work with one of those in 3D xD). The difference is basically that the 8 are two 4 MacPro on the same machine.
Overall performance I don't really think it will vary by 800Mhz = S, maybe you will get a couple of extra frames in a heavy render. Also don't forget that Xeon brings Turbo Boost (dynamic overclocking).
Regarding the RAM ... I think it is better to buy 4x2Gb, in the long run you will have to expand it and you would have 4 free slots that translate into 16Gb (4x4Gb). For the disk there is no mess, total you would have 3 free bays (3TB).
The monitor hmm ... I don't know, but the truth is I don't justify paying all that for "design", speakers, camera and + 120px vertical on a monitor; better (and if you want to change them) you buy a pair of LG LED monitors (they go to hell with the mac and are by far better monitors than the Led Cin… apple). The manufacturer I do not know and the price I guess will decrease.
Currently I have been able to mount Leopard on an Asus Laptop, it has worked well for me, I paid 600 dollars for the machine and I had no idea that Leopard could be installed on PC but then if I could, unfortunately I sacrificed my wifi card that I hope to start working shortly.
When I can pay for a Mac I am sure that I will pay for it but for now I will settle for a copy, it is obvious that mac is expensive for the quality it offers and not only in hardware but also in software iLogic, Finalcut Studio to mention a few, in win everything is apparently cheap but it ends up driving you crazy, and well, free software is far from being an option for those of us who are interested in audio and video ..
MrGalgo, Logic an expensive program? In which top blanket do you buy the Software?
Well, this Hackintosh from which I write, which detects the Leopard 10.5.7 as MacBookPro4,1, works perfectly, and at less than half the price of an original Mac, hahahaha, just need to stick an apple sticker, hahahaha
I like the comments of the style; I bought this xxx I installed osx and it works very well but I am not using the wifi or the audio etc. Then what use is it to you? After the job it turns out that you have half a team!
The truth is I do not see any advantage. And for those who worked the first time, surely they wasted their time carefully selecting the hardware components so as not to have problems with the drivers. After all, those who do it is because they take it as a challenge and lose hours and hours. My sincerest congratulations to those of you who have one of these 100 × 100 operating gossip.
In any case they have a great OS inserted in a huge box, noisy and generating huge doses of calories at the cost of electricity consumption.
Let's look at it as we want, an imac is more practical.
My finger went off xdd, I have commented that: Let's look at it as we want, an imac is more practical.
Which does not mean that everyone does well, I rather believe that it is a matter of knowledge, time and challenges, I think it is very good that a hard is assembled according to a fixed idea, that of installing osx. In my fifteen-year-old age I liked experiments, just like now, the difference is that at present I do not have that time, for me saving € 200 or € 400 or simply investing a little more than € 400 in PC material, and then install an OSx without knowing very well how the computer will end up working, with the problems that will happen and having to visit hacking page, in the end it does not compensate me for that enormous effort in taking time from where there is none. On the other hand, if we are looking for a somewhat decent or posh aluminum case, a good power supply with free dissipation without fans, a liquid cooling equipment, a monitor that is at the height of the iMac for example, and I mean being able to have a pc on equal terms as an iMac in the end the price is not far from what a 21 ″ iMac currently costs.
I do not know if anyone understands me the relationship invested time / invested pasta / Vs aesthetic results obtained, energy consumption between an adapted PC and an iMac does not compensate for moding except as experimentation.
What's more, right now the prices of the 21 and 27 ″ led with their nehalem and such ... I think it is fucking assembling hardware at a lower price and that it looks that good.
Not to mention the time issue, of course ...
An iMac is more practical, beyond all doubt. In the first world. Here in the 4th the imacs are of second selection. There are always problems with the monitor and its dead pixels, the dvd pacifier that fails in 6 months and things like that. Above here it is more expensive in dollars than in the USA, so if you make such an investment and you have to stop the machine from time to time to send it to technical support to have the defective parts replaced, it means that the Apple advantage does not exist.
And if for half the price I have to give up the $ 10 Wi-Fi or the $ 15 sound, it's worth it.
For 79 Farid the link you posted is interesting! Those who cannot understand English have a good starting point here
http://www.miliuco.net/tiger/tiger_juker.html
Anyway, if you have time and you like to experiment, it is a good starting point, I knew this other link
http://www.insanelymac.com/forum/index.php?s=fc15485e3385f9562de66ac5133e8d73&showforum=85
Greetings.
Today surfing on the net I came across this article:
After a couple of weeks doing tests using the various methods that I found available on the net, in the end I think I have already managed to install Mac OSX 10.5.7 on my Dell Mini 9 ″ netbook and that it works quite acceptably. At the moment I leave you here some screenshots, and later I will write a post or guide with the steps that I have followed to achieve it, and perhaps a video showing how it works. In a very summarized way, it could be said that I was able to achieve it by the so-called "DellEFI method", based on creating a bootable USB stick with Mac OS and subsequently making a series of adjustments in the BIOS and various patches with an application called DellEFI. In short, it is a mini macbook that, although far from reaching the quality of an Apple product, I think it gives a quite acceptable result. As a curiosity to note that Mac OS detects it as if it were a MacBook Air. We will continue to inform.
I now wonder where the savings are if it has been 2 weeks with it and it is still not working properly?
Hi there.-
Well, a bit moving on from the Hack Vs Mac controversy, I come to tell you something that maybe someone doesn't know.
Today and it is confirmed, the new 27 ″ iMAC with the core i7 processor is more powerful than the 8-core MAC PRO (the 2 Duos are out of date), so I already got the iMAC with 8 RAM (applicable to 16), 2 Teras of HD and on top of that they come with a 27 LED screen, which was not in my budget, all that for half of € ... let's say that for 1700 bucks you have a piece of bug (MAC) with the Same features of an 8-core MACPRO and at Hack prices (you have to count the LED display)… there are no excuses.
Oh and I leave you another news that since I read it I am with my mouth open ... but I have to wait more ...
http://www.applesfera.com/apple/intel-desvela-sus-planes-core-i3-i5-i7-e-i9-y-su-posible-entrada-en-apple#c148606
"Salud"
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Well, that price / performance ratio is very good, a pity that for Sudacas it does not exist. Here in Buenos Aires, Apple's top reseller has the following as its leading product
iMac 24 ″ 3.06 GHz
$ 11.999 Paying in dollars: USD 2699
• 2 GHz Intel Core 3,06 Duo processor
• 4 GB (in two 2 GB modules) of 3 MHz DDR1.066 SDRAM; its two SODIMM slots support up to 8 GB
• NVIDIA GeForce GT 130 graphics processor with 512MB memory
• 24-inch (viewable) active matrix TFT LCD bright widescreen
For that silver in clone I can build a spaceship.
To that we must add the damn problem of imacs in monitor failures that at this point is already an epidemic.
I suppose it is because the Chinese industry also has different qualities and the one that they send to the south is the 2nd. or 3rd.
Poor Mackeros and speaking respectfully of the quality of their hardware and software. Here in Peru a Mac Pro costs more than $ 5000 an Imac $ 2500 and I built a hackintosh for 500 to test it since I had no higher expectations of performance. Total if things go wrong I install the Win7 that is far superior to the abominable snowleopard that has been destroying data and usb ports in the elite Apple computers. Things went so well for me that I am thinking of keeping it and everything with a gygabite g41 motherboard Intel core2duo processor at 2.93 ghz, 2gb of 2 ddr800 memory and an nvidia graphics card of only 256. The best of all is that yes I want to be able to dispense with all this and run my windows 7 like the wind with this machine that has quality components and not only are famous for such as mac components.
Oh by the way: my condolences for the Snow. Knight just go back to the Leopard
Rafo, I don't really understand your aggressive attitude. I believe that we are in a space to share ideas and experiences that can enrich the other, it does not seem to me that the idea of anyone will attack as you are doing.
In my personal case I have used linux, mac, windows and even solaris and I am absolutely convinced that the worst system is precisely windows. Hopefully 7 is really very good, for the good of all its users, but I assure you that I would not think for a moment about installing it, in any case I prefer Ubuntu 9.10
Pfff Farid, let him be free to express himself as he wants, I believe that 90% of OSx users have been in Windows before, and not one returns to windows after 6 months of OSx. As he well says, there in his country they are very expensive and not very accessible, I am sorry for that, and it is a pity it should not be like that, because if the apple people controlled that issue a little more, I am sure they would open a market there.
If Rafo is happier with his hackintosh then I'm happy for him, congratulations with his box cucumber with cables and accessories everywhere, in addition to the noise and the space it occupies, it is still a patched OSx, but as he says it's a cucumber.
Everyone is happy in a different way, my son is playing with a simple balloon and my neighbor's needs bicycles and toys, anyway ... If he put together a hackintosh, it works for him and he's happy, I'm happy for him, Most hackintosh do not work 100 × 100 leaving audio, network and Wi-Fi cards without working, only a few with enough skill and patience get a hack that works more or less stably. Beware that I do not say it with a sense of mockery, far from it.
I have also been using W7 and the truth has left me very disappointed, it is still a patched view, all the configurations are still just as chaotic as in view, obviously it goes faster and consumes less resources but after almost 1 year In OSx, even if they gave me 4 cucumbers from pc's, I went from OSx to windos, they still have a lot to learn from apple and they are still slaves of antivirus and other com
Unnecessary applications, it still leaves a lot to be desired over OSx.
Eye is a personal opinion, as well as I do not share the comment that USB sticks, when the design platform in PC only supports 500 milliamps at 5v per socket, and in Apple they are 1Amp the difference is remarkable. Hence, in a laptop or desktop pc to boot according to the fact that portable HD's of 2,5 ″ ide requires by obligation to have the 2 usb's and on the other hand, in OSx with 1 I have plenty, I think it has not been looked at well. The thing about the OSx losing data or the Snow is a poop and recommending us Leopard I seriously believe that the problem basically lies in that you are using the hackintosh that should go like the ass and you have no idea how it works, you should learn to use the Time machine that in Windows still do not know what it is and you have to pull third-party programs that do not do the same. Most likely, as the hard & Soft OSx base is not well implemented in your hackintosh at 100 × 100, with your OSx patched you don't know how to use it or it doesn't work well and it gives you problems.
All this associated with the impossibility of buying an Apple, he had no choice but to settle for a hackintosh, and pissed off with it now he speaks wonders of windows, but hey as they say around here in my land ... for tastes ... the colors .
Well, nothing man, to enjoy it for that you have it and if you do not like OSx as you say you can use Windows, install Antivirus, Trojan scan and alternative software to view images, to manage backups, some Space-style program or multi-desktop, uninstall management programs, and a long etc ... we all already know what it is.
I would like that apple could put a reasonable price in these countries where buying an apple is so extremely complicated due to its high price, I don't think it's fair.
There is a false ego even in Peru, this is already worrying. I consider it a country with one of the best qualities in terms of its people out there, but hey, we got the troll.
Here what we must put aside are fanaticism ... That Macintosh is the best of the best there is no doubt, but let's be honest ... Windows is and will be the standard in operating systems for a long time, even if we don't want it, it is what there is and it becomes indispensable in certain aspects;).
On the other hand if ... the mac is prettier, more comfortable, etc etc etc. but seriously ... raise your hand if you think that they do not abuse prices (especially in Latin America). You buy a machine that is very well marketed but has shortcomings ... one of them is the total impossibility of using mini-cds, the components that are good ... are of "quality" but in reality, for example, the video cards are very "low-end" .
A pc .. well, cables wherever you want (actually it is one for monitor power, DVI, and tower power) but what Mac user does not envy the versatility of a pc?…. You change it however you want, for what you want and in the end you get the same from a mac and sometimes better for the same price.
In conclusion Apple knows how to sell what it has (Those who study advertising or those who are publicists know what I'm talking about).
Just in case, I have an iMac and a macbook but I'm a bit of a nonconformist xD
Hello farid and jaca
Too bad for racism that are out of place; and in this current world it is even more horrendous. Here it is not a question of nationality and as I started by saying: I respect mac for its hardware and software that is outstanding, because I have tried it, it is beautiful, stable and intuitive. What does annoy me is the absurd effort to look down on those who cannot afford to acquire one and here there is no trace of resentment. If someone can buy his Ferrari I congratulate him, good for him and enjoy it. But those of us who decided on a Toyota cannot belittle us because in the end it fulfills the same thing, although in design and power it lags behind. FALSE EGO? of what?
Why beat WinVista if the majority have not tried it? I did with an old P4 machine at 2.8 ghz and with only 1gb of memory it was going like the wind even with Photoshop. I did my work without any problem, without crashes or slow performance compared to Xp. I built a hackintosh just to test that a standard user like me could do it and I did it with some understandable difficulties. that it is not the same as an Imac can be, that it is inferior to a Mac Pro is logical. But it works.
The Snow thing is for those who criticize Windows without foundation. What if the horrors seen in the osx update were committed by Microsoft?
And to think that they annihilated Vista just for consuming resources and asking the same thing twice.
Jaca101 I prefer a thousand times to be a troll than you
I agree Jaquita. Your country is not to blame for you being born there. Ignorant people are everywhere. This is life.
All of which leads to one conclusion: my eternal admiration for the genius of Steve Jobs and company who made the Mac, iPhone and iPod possible with all the weaknesses that all technology, especially if it is new, entails. My admiration, as an art lover, of the exquisite design, power and stability of this platform. So the ONLY BAD THING ABOUT MAC ARE THE MACKEROS and by mackeros I don't mean those design, engineering and video editing professionals who use this magnificent platform to create and why not, also as entertainment, but to those small-minded people and spirit who use their expensive machine at 5% just to chat and listen to music just to puff out their chest and say «soy de mac» as if it were a brand-name sneaker or an expensive watch. His possessions end up possessing them. I don't envy those people. It wouldn't be human if I did.
Unfortunately in the impressive Ubuntu Linux 9.10 karmic Koala, which does not have the weaknesses of Windows or the elitism of Mac, it does not run essential standard programs but was perhaps the best alternative on a computer with high performance. But in the end, the corporations defend themselves.
Please do not disrespect anyone.
Things as they are, Microsft is much more introduced in homes, and has a more reasonable price, Linux is used by practically all university students related to technology and engineering, programmers, network administrators, telecommunications and even in companies with computer services. web hosting.
On the other hand, it is not very logical that if you have a minor student who is starting to use a pc at school, you go and buy him an OSx, however it does not hurt that he has alternatives and learns, obviously. And let's be aware that unfortunately many government agencies have MS, it is not the first time that I go to the doctor and they are pissed off because the network is not working for them, because the pc hangs etcc or in the bank, who has not happened ? and yes I have said unfortunately because a crash due to instability at home is not important, but at work it is embarrassing.
An apple does not pay only for the stylistic design as discussed here, it is a set and is much more than an external design, it is an optimal configuration between hard and soft, without noise, without cables and with all the extras, a tremendous stability and a set of tools delivered with the software, so that it is plug and play, and not have to ask your friend for the office, the acrobat reader, an antivirus, a picassa, and an endless list of essential programs to use ... Well, I won't tell you that you don't know anymore, right? on many occasions they see a Mac and fall in love with the external design but in reality it is a work of engineering, that the fans are practically not heard, that they do not have overheating, they are extremely stable even at high temperatures, in addition to the tremendous stability of the whole, the simplicity of cables, and what is even better still, is the simplicity of use of the software.
Now as I have already mentioned, it seems to me that the prices are somewhat high, and in countries with a lower income, these equipment should be at an affordable price for them, even if it was at the cost of covering the guarantees, so that no savvy man would buy the equipment there and will forward them here to profit fraudulently.
I am sure that if these computers were accessible to people like Rafo, now I would not be ranting about apple.
As a detail that I have noticed is that when I was on PC, I was always choosing motherboard, cpu, vga etcc over updating drivers etcc now with Osx I don't need to worry about anything, everything works and with zero problems, Rafo will have a Team cucumber, what you don't know until one day you try an Osx, is that half that power on mac is done the same thing.
I will never rant about Apple and if I have seen its benefits of operation. I don't just mean the external, the design is also the interior architecture.
To each his own. I am not opposed to having a Mac or charging, of course, for the design we praise. (if you want celestial that it costs you) but the ridiculous mockery that they do to a possessor of Pc.
As I repeat, I do not criticize Mac but rather successful users who believe they are better living beings for what they have. I don't think there are (and if there are bad ones) Porshe user blogs making fun of Hyunday owners, that's absurd.
and carlos please stop that noise and hangs. For me, the last pc you had was a pentium II with Windows 95. The pcs no longer make noise, or the low-end ones. And my team is not a cucumber but a mid-range. A Core 2 processor duo, with a gygabite g41 board and DDR2 ram memory, is mid-range. And I don't know what that is about hanging up. Not even on my old dell optiplex gx 270 pc running at the top of my lungs with adobe creative suite CS3 with a multitude of layers never happened to me and it is absolutely silent. The new heatsinks are quiet and quite accessible. The logic is not with half my equipment you do the same, but with half the price of yours you get a better pc. In the end, what Apple sells and does very well, is the hardware and the case because the interior is the same: Intel processor, gygabite or Asus board, ddr2 memory with first-class components, the components of the pc
Again you are wrong, your logic of: «The logic is not with half of my equipment you do the same but with half the price of yours you get a better pc. »
When you try a real Mac, you will notice.
Again and for the second time I will tell you the same as Jaca 101 using his words.
I'm not going to go into the raffin cloth, I stopped feeding what you have long ago.
Go the brotherhood of snobs on the block has become sinister. YA PROBE MAC and I'll talk to you with arguments. You may not agree but what a lack of mind and what is in your ridiculous circle! You were the tallest and capable of having arguments Carlos (at least it seemed that way) but in the end you are just that: You have a mac but you have nothing inside
An old joke that can give you an idea of hack vs mac mac vs hack:
A guy drives his car and breaks down.
Call the mechanic and he looks at the car, looks at the engine, moves some cables and at the end takes out a key and tightens a screw.
"Start the car," says the mechanic to the guy.
BRRRRRMMMMMMMMMM !!!!!
the guy, delighted, says:
- Thank you very much, how much do I owe you?
- They are € 500
- € 500 for tightening a screw?
-No, I tightened the screw for free. The € 500 is for knowing which screw was to be tightened.
Moral:
In a hack you have to know which screw you have to tighten.
Apple gives you the screws tight.
That's the € 500 that you can save.
And as Porky Pig from Looney Tunes said:
«That's all- that's all- That's all folks
Good joke to define it. Although… they could give us a discount because tightening the same screw to all mac's should be cheaper than 500 given the serial work. Juas, I'm kidding. Good comment 😉
I think jaca as a good geek has not realized the joke. You have to tell him again
Ah, I know: "I'm not going to go into the raffin cloth, I've stopped feeding what you have for a long time"
I have a Mac Pro 1.1 (one of the first ones), it works for vice but I also tell you that I doubt that I will buy another desktop mac unless the price is equal to a hackintosh and I will explain.
My team cost me 3200 Euros, it is 3 years old for 4 and of course it is a vice. The guarantee (the apple care) has already been fulfilled, which you have to pay to extend the 2-3 year (300 euros more). If I had bought a hackintosh I would have had the same equipment or perhaps one that would make me more or less the same for half the price or cheaper I dare say.
Nowadays, those of us who use a computer (we don't have to be computer scientists), is it so difficult to install a hackintosh? I tell you no, you just have to follow a little the thousands of forum documents (not complex at all). About time is another thing ... since time is money, but it is not crazy time to find the parts and download and install your hackintosh.
Many people say that they do not have time and that they prefer to pay ... to pay more than double because they do not have time ... or one of two ... 2-5 days of their life (weekends) they lose more than double in their salary than what a hackintosh or ... if they do this, they are rich ... What makes me think that those people who do not want to complicate it are because they do not want money to spare.
They should really assess whether or not it is worth spending that time, because it is much richer to save that money to enjoy it, for example, in good books (which are a few) or on trips (which are a few).
Stop in for 2 days and look around the forums if it is so complex or not and then decide ... because it shows a LOT that the people who have looked at it have not stopped. Today I can say that this is not complex in a pragmatic way for an average computer user (the one who navigates and installs the iTunes music program for his iPod).
So let's leave this stretched falsehood, if you want to say that you have so much money left over that instead of burning it on trips you prefer to pay for the Apple to have 1 year less warranty than in all the hackintosh parts, if you want to extend the warranty It costs you half of another new hackintosh (300 euros), that if your warranty runs out, the part costs you half of another new hackintosh (1 x1900xt graphic card for my mac pro is worth 300 euros and there are much better ones for pc for 100 euros ... yes, BETTER), who want to take it out of the box and start working (famous S.Jobs boom) ... leave that falsehood and invest a little nano-sweat in choosing your pieces and giving next-next in the hackintosh installation.
Regarding updates and so on, I'm still seeing Mac owners who don't enjoy their updates and know very well that if they install a snow leopard hackintosh (even though UPDATES DO WORK), if the updates stopped working they could continue to use it and working without problems, yes ... if having the LATEST in software, something that fucks but is not vital to work when everything is stable, but to look at the freehand ... with the time it has and is still used despite this illustrator.
So let's not be hypocrites. If someone wants to pay more because they have money left over, then tell them that nothing happens, it is respectable since everyone does what they want with their money, but the day they don't have it gentlemen, they will see how those 2-5 invest days to buy their hackintosh, and they will see how it is not crucial for their "golden time", that even in the hours of going to the bathroom if they have a laptop they can surf and in 4-5 times they have it solved;
Sorry for the rant.
Well said Juan and there are people who know that Steve Jobs himself would be ashamed of many of the users of his platform but that he has to put up with them because they consume his product and eat the story (his story) that Mac hardware is superior when many mac users like Juan have realized that this is not the case. That is why some celebrate the bankruptcy of Psystar and other companies that are determined to sell the hack by pushing so that their circle remains just as closed. It is inevitable gentlemen, and even Jobs himself knows it: the adoption of the Intel platform has opened the door to those who with a little work and medium knowledge like me have a mid-range machine and with the Leopard as a gun along Windows 7 paying less than half for equal (and even better) performance, as many performance tests have shown.
As Juan said: if you have any money left over, throw it away, it's yours. Others of us value our budget better and in the long run we will win.
Hello everyone hehehe, stop by here and I couldn't take it anymore xD.
the point is that finally after several unsuccessful attempts I have advised to run a MAC Os Lepoard on a sad Pentium IV and with an ATI Radeon 200 and 512 of RAM memory with this misery of pc is going great for me, everything perfect except the card of "RealteK" sound but within what is possible, and based on experimenting I have been able to make it a Hakintosh. by the way, I have to get an empty mac G4 box, I will try to adapt the pentium IV in it.
I know it's crappy graphics but it looks vast cucumber for that, now this week I'll try to run the Mac without having to use the CD to start it, you already know about the Darwinx86, but if you give me some advice I'll thank you, I've been 2 weeks I have been looking over it but this week I will get more serious with another more powerful computer and have windows & Mac Os.X 10.5.4 (I hope someone can benefit from this and it works for them)
The hakintosh are worth more because the fact of paying a paston only for 4 more good chips and the manzanita ... the truth, I would feel a little cheated in a certain way, it is worth that the design is vastly modern and in short, not everything It is imajen, it is to look for the economic approach or to equal the benefits or to surpass them I can not afford a team like that or joke, and like me many more neither.
And what about prices, what you usually talk about what each one has spent ...
Ami this in his time it cost me € 400, today for less than € 100 you have a better one than this, so if I start to think I laugh at the Power Mac G5, who will spend that if with € 100 you already have it?
I continue to apologize to the followers of Hak, having one was my dream but now that I have it with software I am already satisfied and on top of that, coupling it later in a power mac G4 box I will not notice the difference, I will have the design, the apple, and the X Leopard that in the G4 they said that it didn't get more than Mac Os 9.2.2 (I don't know ..)
When I am ready I will let you know if I can post a picture there lol.
I have already managed to install mac and not need the cd to boot xD until I have installed it to a mini notebook Acer Aspire One lol, white also xD. now he only lacks the apple and gas
Congratulations Dj_PslkO
Really installing the OSX on a Pentium IV is quite a feat. So you will realize that only Steve Jobs' elite stubbornness prevents the Osx from going like a fish in water with any PC that has the same components as a Mac but costs less than half.
There is no place for MAQUEROS but for computer scientists who can get the best out of technology and any operating system, be it Windows, OSX or Linux.
Thank you! It was just a matter of spending hours and hours on the pc, the osx takes me almost around 4 hours to install itself on the pentium IV, it was hell at first, mostly because of the tremendous waiting and waiting for results, it I installed 4 times and in the end I got away with it, the bad thing is the components, and every time I try to install a "Kext" the OsX is going to be taken for granted. so I just install the patch in Spanish and when I have a while I will look at the components that are compatible and I will buy them by e-bay, and for 4 more hard times, I will have without a doubt a complete Hackintosh and above all adapted to a box of mac G3, it will simply go through the original mac except for us who know the secret lol. Greetings, and you can write to me whenever you want and thus we share knowledge about this world that is being explored and more and more people are encouraged to discover it. Bye!
The same thing happened to me: hours of waiting, several kernel panics and a lot of frustration at first, until I found a simple list of compatible components such as a Gygabite board, a Western digital hard disk, core 2 duo processor, Nvidia card and that's it. . I recommend this configuration to get the most out of it, but enjoy your Pentium IV. FEW HAVE SO MUCH FOR SO LITTLE. Congratulations again.
Hello, well, my pentium IV has an ATI Radeon X1100 integrated to the board as standard, the board is an Acer RC415-AM Soket 775, for those who want to make inventions, take one from ebay for € 10 and rebentar it, my cousin He told me that with the Iatkos v4, which is the one I have, I burn the hard drive from reading and writing so much, but I use a 500G SATA and it's fancy, he doesn't even know, that's something he would have wrong. greetings HACKINTOSCHEROS !!!!
Hi, I think if you have money there is no way to buy a mac especially the new mac pro with Xeon processors. but today with the release of the i7 processors you can already install snow leopard on a hackintosh. I have even LG LED screens that snow leopard detects as cinemas and for much less price I have heard that they have better quality of image resolution and all those weird terms. I bought a laptop a year ago and mounted leopard iatkos 10.5.7. It has worked very well, I have only had a problem with the output to the 2nd monitor and also the Wi Fi, but for that I use Ubuntu when I need to use Wi Fi, I only use leopard because of the amount of software that exists for video and audio editing Final Cut Studio and Logic.
ASUS M80Vb
Intel core 2 duo t6400 2.0
4GB ram ddr2
Geforce 9300m 512MB
250 GB HD
all for 600 dlls in Best buy
to date I have not had a big problem, I started CI QE with corevidia 1.1 in case someone has my same computer.
I'm about to build a new Hackintosh to edit video because mine is very poor, I have already checked prices and for about 3500 dlls you can buy the computer with an i7 processor and two LG screens that would be the most expensive if you dedicate yourself to video is one good option if you do not have to buy a Mac Pro. (the video asks for too many resources)
If you dedicate yourself to video editing, you have to make a bigger investment. The earthquake that happens at the moment is that, for the maqueros, Apple made a mistake with the configuration of its Mac Pro 8-core Xeon, which in performance, as indicated by the benchmarks, is inferior in performance to the Imac of 27 ″ which has the Corei7 as a processor.
That said and taking into account the more than 3,000 euros that a Mac Pro costs without counting the monitor that is also very expensive, it will always be more advantageous for you to build a Hackintosh with the i7 processor whose performance will be greater than the highest-end Apple computers .
I don't have money to buy a mac so I have a hackintosh and it suits me perfectly, I currently use snow leopard, the installation of SL with my hardware was much faster and more direct than installing windows.
The performance issue is relative, if we have a 4-core intel with 8 gb of ram at the price of an imac core 2 duo I think that the control that apple has on its hardware is in the background, but if I could choose I would buy a mac just for fun but for now i'll stick with im hackintosh
Hello everyone, whoever wrote this has no bloody idea what an original Mac has inside: it's the same as a pc (minus the bios). I had an iMac and I sold it, imagine what I have now.
What Mac sells is the (). It is a closed operating system, so it is very very and more stable than others.
My hakintosh eats my school's aluminum imac and this is the combination core 2 quad 9550 3 disks of 500gb 8gb of ram ddr2 graphics nvidia 9800gt 1024mb and gigabyte motherboard is the repera nen and snow leopard and windows7 and they go from category price in all 1500e a year and a half ago, now it will be cheaper
If your hackintosh cost you 600 dollars and buying a mac costs you 1000 dollars, after 5 years…. They will not want your hackintosh or give it away, on the other hand, for the mac maybe they will give you even the equivalent to buy an iPod nano in the apples store!
YA..but for 1000 dollars I get an 8 nuleos. And for 400 I get a 4 nucleos. Look to see what a mac with those characteristics costs you.
Nowadays you can already assemble a hackintosh with original mac bios. You just have to buy compatible parts. I have already read several guides out there. The only thing that would change from a mac to a well-assembled hackintosh would be that it looks more beautiful on the outside. And not having to eat your head for a few days installing and others. If you want it all done, buy a mac and leave the money. That's right ... every once in a while ... I have a 4-core hackintosh and it hasn't crashed even 1 time. I've been using it every day to produce music for two years now, I certainly recommend it 😛
Make no mistake, you cannot compare a 600 euro hackintosh with a 1000 euro mac, it doesn't hold up. Hackintosh has the best price performance ratio of a Mac here. It is NOT about reselling it later, but about using it for professional activities such as music, or design, or simply not to have all those antivirus and antimalware that reduce the performance of the machine so much.
The stability of hackintosh is incredible, and you have to use it to believe it (as long as you have everything properly configured). Whoever tries it and is successful repeats.
: )
What you say Jorge, is a good consolation, for the one who works and has spent hours and hours in finding out what hard is compatible, he has kicked out many shops to buy and configure a compatible equipment and after the hours of installation and documentation and of course In the end it works, and if you are not so lucky it happens as many readings that there are in the forums, where they get it to work…. less the camera, less the audio, less the wifi …… .in short, it doesn't work but ohhh you see leopard xdd. To all this you forget the most important thing, no matter how much you have saved in the hard, in the end you have a piece of tower with a lot of cables there, a 7-socket power strip, plus the monitor and extras such as speakers , camera, microphone and most importantly The Noise, The Heat, The Size and a whole desk full of junk.
Is that what you spend so much time for?
At least as experimentation is fine but, time is money.
It is not worth considering having a hack of these, it will work for you and I am glad but I think it is not feasible for the time to invest.
Carlos, all of us who have hackintosh would prefer a mac because of its design, but if we don't have a mac we settle for an intel hackintosh that works perfectly, with the same stability as a mac, the hardware is relative, in my case I didn't have to give a lot of laps because it recognizes everything except the sound that I install it with a pkg file and that's it, luckily the experience I gained with this made me learn to install it on other computers including AMD and they really work well, the installation is also very simple despite having to modify the kernel.
As I said before. There is no place for mackeros but for computer scientists who can get the most out of your machine. The hackintosh I have is excellent in performance and that is mid-range with leopard. And to tell the truth: I admire the beautiful design of the case of an original Mac but if I had the money to buy one, honestly, I would not buy it, because I am not to show off with an apple logo when with that same money I can build a better, more powerful machine, with first-class components such as Asus boards, kingston memory, Intel processor, Western Digital Disk, Nvidia graphics card that handles both Windows 7 and Snow Leopard without problems.
Unfortunately Steve Jobs, in addition to his successes with the Ipod, the Iphone, the Ipad and other trinkets lost a great opportunity to seize an immense portion of the market if he launched an apple OS to run on PCs. You could call it MacPC or PcX or whatever you want so that your elite maqueros are not offended. With this, how many dissatisfied Windows would join your ranks?
Linux would stop making sense since it would have none of its disadvantages with all its advantages for an affordable price. Apple would then reign without problems and would definitively defer to Windows.
THE HACKINTOSH IS A PROOF OF IT. Poor those who can't see it.
Well I don't know if it was luck but I have a hackintosh that works 100% and the only thing I had problems with was at startup (which did not load the OS if I took out the installation DVD) and on the USB that did not recognize some memories or devices (for example the mouse, the keyboard and the Iphone I recognized them quickly and without problems) and I solved them without having to patch .. Anyway, for those who do not have much money, a hack is a good option ...
Well, I have three months with a hackintosh I spent 1000 dollars, the characteristics are: Intel core 2 quad 3.0 processor but when I put snow leopard, I recognized it like this (3.10 Quad core intel xeon) gigabyte mid-range motherboard, 8400 graphics card 512, 4 gigs of ram, 320 gig hard drive, practically the clone of the mac pro.
I am a dj and sometimes in graduations when some students project videos, they carry original macs, one time I got one with a brand new macbook pro with i7 and all the stuff, and we started to render a video both at the same time in imovie, and I left it for more than a minute and a half, so that they are original does not mean that they are better than what one builds, because in the end mac uses intel, and intel you can buy it yourself, which is the most important thing (THE PROCESSOR) GREETINGS FROM TIJUANA BC
Hello everyone, the truth is I am very dummie in this ... I have used pc all my life but I want to switch to mac. The point is the price, and for that reason the first step I will take is to adapt my laptop and turn it into hackintosh. But I don't know if the features of my laptop support the snow leopard iATKOS5i 10.5.5-
My machine is a compaq presario f700 with 2gbram and an AMD TURION 64 MOBILE TK55 processor, it also has these characteristics:
MMX (+), 3DNow! (+), SSE (1,2,3), x86-64 AMD-V. And a modest 120GB hard drive. What do you think ... will it be good to install it ...?
Thank you for your help.
JD
Maceros, have you tried Linux?
It's Unix, the best of all Unix
For those who do not know, Unix is the best OS. Nothing is superior on the planet Earth.
It's better, much better than Mac. Mac is a pseudo Unix.
Also ... Linux is free, it is open source, it is free and altruistic and the best of all is that it is very, very good.
Maceros you throw the roll a lot but you have something of a sect.
PUSH BY LINUX. Don't let it be the best man-machine solution
I love that the typical guy arrives ready on duty with his 4-day debian and brags about something without having a clue… well… that's the way the world goes, with trolls.
It is not that linux is bad, it is that what has just been commented is not correct. To begin with, linux is not unix, in fact all gnu / linux acronyms say "not is unix". It was created based on minix but anyone with a little idea can tell you that mac os x is more similar to a unix (it is a darwin bsd that comes from freebsd) than linux.
Regarding what unix is the best operating system ... that's the most subjective I've heard. Think that Linux is great but being (the vast majority of them) an altruistic operating system where the investment that exists in it is the one that the altruistic developer himself gives ... it is much less than that of a company that invests money because the system evolve, and whoever tells you that this is not the case ... is blatantly lying to you. It also implies that you do not have support and many of the applications of proprietary companies that (make no mistake) make our lives very easy (remember that you have to pay for them) are on other systems such as mac os x and not on linux (ex: photoshop, games,…).
As for stability, let the freak come and show that linux is more stable than * bsd or the other way around ... I think both are brilliantly good at this and I don't consider any superior.
It seems good to push a free operating system but (in my case) I prefer to support it in helping it evolve (programming and contributing) and meanwhile use real solutions that help me with my needs without falling short, like mac os x.
Mac-no, Linux-yes, make me run adobe creative suite CS5 on linux with the performance of a mac and I'll pass, otherwise dedicate yourself to installing ubuntu themes and don't get involved in what you don't know
138 and 139 isoto conform what is said that you are a sect.
The acronym "not is unix" is just a play on words.
The best internet servers use Linux
The 50 most important super computers in the world use Linux (in any of its multiple variants, remember that being open source I can customize it).
I insist, there is no more advanced concept of OS on Earth than Unix (and linux is conceptually Unix).
Mc is a Unix capped
The Haquer use linux.
The real problem with Linux is economic and political. On the one hand, being free and public, Window and Mc prefer to discredit it and use people like you to do that work.
On the other hand, as lobis they are, they push politically so that Linux does not emerge, because the day politicians (at the national or European level) push for it, Windows and Mc will die.
As a computer scientist, I use Mac and I have a couple of virtualbox virtual machines, one with Windows 7 and the other with debits, I am simply a computer scientist and I do not intend to seek any kind of division between us computer scientists with absurd discussions. I use an iMac because it is a machine that I like because it is beautiful and it is very well built, the operating system that I use the most is OS X because of its indisputable robustness supporting tools such as logic pro 9, final cut, etc ... well I am a musician and I I like to edit long videos without noticing that lag so typical in Windows and in cinelerra ... each one will use what suits him best according to the use he gives him, what's more, I have a dedicated server for my internet things and it is a Linux centos with cpanel. Each thing for what it is, let's not generate division among us computer scientists, since this planet is already sufficiently divided.
After making a post about how horrible and disgusting PCs and windows are (according to you) ... and about the wonder and perfection of the earth that are macs ... you say ... "let's not generate division"? ... you are in a roll that You don't even understand yourself ... by the way ... I also make my own music, edit it, and render the sounds ... I carry a pc ... with windows ... it cost me half an imac ... and guess ... everyone ask .. how the hell are you doing .. i tell them .. apple is stealing from you .. gives you outdated components, for exorbitant prices ... that happens to them for being fashion buyers ..
Push for the one they want, each one chooses what they like, whether you use a mac or a pc it does not matter to me, as long as I use the equipment with which I feel comfortable, but in the meantime I do not want to know anything about linux and because of my fault of people like you who spend their time breaking eggs so that everyone falls in love with linux little by little I start to hate it.
LINUX A REALITY
And if any of those present are one of those who like to display their apple in public, read no more. But if you are not one of them and you want to be objective, read my arguments and answers:
With this post I only intend to inform, debunk myths and show that there is a real alternative to monopolies: Free, open, antitrust and in the public domain
- GNU / LINUX PROJECT, started in 1983 by Richard Stallman, its objective is the development of a complete Unix operating system composed entirely of free software (from the Wiki).
- MINIX is a clone of the Unix operating system (from the Wiki).
- BSD… ..…. an operating system derived from the Unix system…. (from the Wiki). As you can see everything is derived from Unix which is the mother of SSOO, there is nothing more evolved. I repeat Mc himself is a capped unix.
- Commercial Unixes have surrendered to Linux and have entered a dead end, including Solaris itself.
- The stability and performance that gives, for example, a humble Ubuntu (Linux desktop) is superior to a Mac and what to say about Win. After several years of operation it will continue as the 1st day and with less hard resources for the same as Win or Mc. And I'm not telling you about other more "professional" distros.
- OWNERSHIP APPLICATIONS: Obviously there are no certain proprietary applications for Linux (Adobe CS, Illustrator, Autocad, MSOfice itself, etc.), and those interested will take care, due to the continuity of their monopoly, that they do not exist. However, these applications can be run with Wine, although it lacks features, but everything will work. Linux is unstoppable. Google, the biggest on the web, is at it and the opportunistic Job and Gate tremble.
If you are a graphic design professional, or you use specific applications, or you freak out with video games, I can understand that you are on Mc or Win, but I recommend that you follow the evolution of Linux because it could be very interesting in the near future or even right now I leave you this a design link in Spanish (joaclintistgud.wordpress.com). And I remind you that there are a lot of free and / or free applications that, being discreet, can cover the needs of a professional very well (read the last paragraphs). You do not know how comfortable (and cheap) it is to need something and just download it, and 100% legal.
- FROM MOBILE TO SUPER COMPUTER: Just as Linux runs on supercomputers, it also runs on mobiles (LiMo and Android), on Web servers (the best ones), on desktops, in e-Book readers, in applications such as clock clocks, computer testers. system, mobile data readers, etc. It also does it (much better than Win and WinNT) in large local network structures, (I don't know of any company that uses mac as support for their IT infrastructure), etc. By this I mean that it is the UNIVERSAL SYSTEM FOR ANY MACHINE, (soft and hard multiplatform) from a mobile to a supercomputer.
FREE USERS: Any user who goes from MC or Win to Linux, will have ALL the desktop software they need instantly and free of charge: several offices, much in graphic design, more in communications, and thousands of varied applications.
And the comfort of installing your Linux and starting to install free applications without the need to hack, pay for licenses, updates, descrack, download disguised garbage, malware, porn ... Uffffffff, just thinking about it makes me sick.
If you want to know Linux, download a live Ubuntu CD (the most domestic) and run it on your pc or mc (it will not alter your system at all). When you have it clear, install it starting shared with Win or Mc (the linux community has many information blogs).
- DOMINATE THE WORLD: The world of software is dominated by 3 + 1 (Microsoft, Aple and Adobe + Autocad that will play you). Between dogs they do not bite, especially when the cake is succulent and gives a lot of money for the three who are the ones who design the world and say how and with what we should work.
Paranoya? none, creature, I think you are simple. Or is it that you do not know that the Gate and the Job are men with a lot of money who design the world as they are interested in and with the passivity and support of politicians and people like you. This also happens with music, cinemas, the news, etc. and even with food. Haven't you heard of Big Brother? And I'm not talking about trash TV. There is a lot of money and power at stake, even if your simple mind doesn't understand it.
- RRP: As a reference I will say that an MSOfice in Spain (for MC or Win) costs well over € 100,00 (almost what a basic CPU) and I am not talking about Adobe CS or simply Photoshop, a capital.
OppenOfice, which is not free, costs € 0,00 and its format is more standard than .doc and opens docx that do not open lower versions of MSOfice itself. It is just an example for not talking about GIMP, Inkscape, Blender, VLC, music applications, video, images, games (discreet, yes) etc ... You would be surprised what can be done with these free and apparently discreet tools, which by the way , the free community compiles also for MC and Win. That is generosity. See if the competition does the same.
By the way, do you know what is behind the closed code of your Mc? and Win puffffffff.
That was before in the stone age now in 2010 it installs easy like a mac and updates without problems mac is fucking pc but more beautiful ah I am a user since 2001 I started with a smurf that many of those who speak here do not even know what it is
If I pride myself on using a near perfect desktop operating system
I correct If you pride yourself on using an almost perfect desktop operating system, mount a hakintosh, ah jaca101, what do you care what the other ghost say?
I really tell you, I bought an asus N73, core i7 even comes with blue Ray, I did hackintosh, with dual Boot Windows, and I'm not an expert designer, but I have a lot of fun, I think that to pay $ 3000.00, better what I did ehhh ?
could you update mac osx ??
I use a hackintosh with lion and the latest version of logic pro 9 to work, it works with excellent performance.
I Hackintosh With a processor 4 nukleos 4 gigs of ram, LOGIC 9 VuEEEELA !!!
Put what you want that does not flinch. I have 3 years with the A butt producing, Not 1 just hangs. That is, it cost me to configure the installation. A. I still use version 10.5. I have not changed because it is doing great,
but you can't update the system… ..
I have seen, for example, pc bargains that sell hackintosh, it seems to me a real scam, they are worth more than an imac for example an i3 they sell for more than 1000 euros when you have the imac for 1100 is an insult
Eye these opinions k dais the pro mac! they are a bit relative! I have been working with clones all my life, later I went to an imac, and it turns out that these little gadgets if you smoke in the room or have some type of smoke at home, when they absorb the smoke, they generate a stain in the upper left front part. It can be removed even by cleaning with the glass removed. I spent 1.125 euros! for km, tell the Appel technical service that this does not fall within the guarantee «how?» . ... not to smoke at home, they advised me ... HOW ARE YOU LIKE?
Come on man!! they are scammers. The Iphone 4 in two years has already been broken twice! The first time they changed it completely because I reached the end of the guarantee, but the second time I took it to the Chinese. That the smart ones from the technical service didn't fix it for me, they changed it for a new one just for 170 Leuros! "Full-blown murder." .
Anyway…
At least the k have a hackintosh you will always be able to fix it for less money to configure it to your liking ... and above all not to contribute to one of the most Imperialist and deceptive companies on the planet with the most programmed obsolescence. . .
but this is just my opinion. . . A greeting!! MAC ADDICTS
No. It does not come out for the same price. I work in video editing and currently, after the multiple headaches I suffered with my Mac Pro (the trash can), from hellish heatings to continuous repairs of the video cards, I decided to give Hackintosh a try.
Currently I work with a ten-core i9 machine, with 64 GB of Ram, two RX5700 graphics and a monitor (professional of course) from BenQ.
Aside from the fact that Mojave (run away from Catalina) works like a shot, I completely beat the iMac Pro in performance and temperatures.
Has it cost me the same? NO: It cost me LESS than HALF of what the same configuration would have cost me in apple.