Times have changed and the crisis has fueled the ingenuity of the smartest. Offers on all types of products proliferate at any time, it is no longer necessary to wait for the sales season to find good deals. One of the campaigns that practically all the greats have already signed up for is the Day without VAT But, are these discounts true or are they just a hoax, scam or whatever we want to call it?
iPod Touch, more expensive with a discount than without it
Undoubtedly, some of you will remember for a time the "authentic, unique and inimitable Day without VAT" that MediaMarkt is celebrating today throughout Spain, and I hope you can read this post very soon and that tomorrow you will be returning the product.
First of all, warn that not everything is deception, indeed there are good offers, that is, prices not inflated and then apply the discount, a practice that is completely illegal and that I encourage all those who suffer it to report in Consumption (complaints in Consumption are totally free, slow, but free and effective in the vast majority of cases).
The case that concerns us today is iPod Touch in the MediaMarkt VAT-free day. Some days ago Apple lowered the price of all its models from € 429 for the 64GB to € 299 and the 32 GB model has gone from € 319 to € 249. Here's the test for anyone unfamiliar with this update:
However, in MediaMarkt, which seem to be very "smart" and "take us for fools" have maintained the old prices at which, even after applying the special discount of the Day without VAT, continue to be at a price higher than the "official". These are the prices of the iPod Touch en MediaMarkt with the discount of Day without VAT applied:
The iPod Touch in MediaMarkt is more case after applying the Day without VAT than at normal price in Apple
So be careful. Preferably go to look for products whose price you already knew before or, failing that, do not go in a hurry in case they run out and compare in another place and tell MediaMarkt, to Fnac, which last Thursday and Friday had similar practices in their days without VAT, and to many others who usually do the same: YO I'M NOT STUPID
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Update (16:10)
Thanks to our article and the support of hundreds of twitter users, MediaMarkt has acknowledged its mistake and downgraded prices for the 32GB and 64GB iPod Touch According to the new prices set by Apple however, the discount of the Day without VAT it is not yet reflected in the "shopping cart", something they have also claimed they are trying to fix. We will keep you informed.
Update (18:30)
Finally and after several hours of waiting, MediaMarkt It has finished solving the error that we made public in Applelizados just as it had announced it would. As you can see in the following screenshot, the price of the iPod Touch has been updated to the new prices of Apple Lossless Audio CODEC (ALAC), and the corresponding discount is applied Day without VAT.
From here we thank all users and friends of Applelised who have contributed their tweets, retweets and comments, as well as MediaMarkt who has known how to respond appropriately with the mistake made, even if it took longer than desired.
I just went out with a friend
of the Media Markt of the Valencia Conference Center, we have bought a
article that according to the invoice its price on a normal day would be € 22,90, well… with our mobile we have calculated how much it would stay if we take away 21%… It has given us € 18,09.
Well .. we arrived at the checkout, we see an ad in which it said that a
€ 500 article had to do the following operation to get that
It would cost us without VAT, the operation is as follows: 500 / 1.21 = € 413,22
FRIENDS! now do it you 500-21% = € 395 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Things no longer fit us ... at the cashier the clerk charges us for
our article € 18,92, which is € 0,83 more than it should be
WITHOUT VAT.
THEY ARE REALLY DISCOUNTING US A VAT OF 17,35% ... NOT 21%
We approach the claims window to have them explain
what kind of algorithmic or scientific operation were they doing so that
they have charged us more ... THE BOY, HAS NOT KNOWN TO EXPLAIN IT, HAS
I SAID SOMETHING ABOUT THAT IT IS A VAT ON THE TAX BASE OF THE ARTICLE ... A
VAT THAT IS NOT A VAT ...
We have removed the colors in front of several other clients.
A day without VAT in which they already give you the products with the price without VAT
according to them and that if not you are a little clever and you do the math
they tease like an idiot.
you've done the wrong account. They take away the VAT, which is calculated on the price without VAT (the tax base). You are calculating 21% of the final price, which is something else ...
You are right… .. but… .. «advertising» Media Markt «sells» you that they deduct VAT, therefore the user of the street throws their accounts subtracting 21% from the sale price.
If you do not want to have queues in "customer information", or that people take the jugular, make it very clear that the discount refers to the tax base.
Let's see if all the people who go to the Media Markt have to know how to calculate the tax base from the old sale price, in order to add the corresponding VAT that does have to be paid to calculate the new final price (my mother, how lazy)
Media Markt "sells" you as you say it deducts VAT because it is deducting VAT. If you do not know how to perform a percentage applied in reverse, it is not a problem of the company but of your school knowledge.
Holy shit Makrt scamming people and here a legion of scammed people defending them ... Apply VAT as they apply, they cheat, be it by discontinuing products, raising the price, putting second-hand products among the new ones, and so on….
New slogan from media Markt, «Come to MediaMarkt and let us scam you and get a pin if you defend us»
You are wrong to remove VAT from a product. Public sale price if it sets a price of 500 euros, it will have to be divided by 1,21 and it comes out what you have to pay, which is the tax base
Hello José Luis, you are right in the calculation, to remove the VAT from a product you have to divide by 1.21, not multiply by 21%, since they are not applying a discount, in this case if you would have to multiply by 21%. I hope I've helped.
He has explained it to you perfectly and you boast of taking the colors out of it… ..if when they say that ignorance is the mother of daring it is for something… ..a 413.22 (item price) add 21% and you will see that it gives € 500 … .Therefore YES THEY DISCOUNT THE VAT. You should make sure of things before reproaching the workers there, who have to put up with each… .. like you that anyway….
It's incredible how people screw up, like without having a clue they start to complain. This Jose Luis is one of those who take the tablet with a broken screen to Mediamarkt and tell you: But isn't the warranty covered? hahahaha, find out that you have collapsed ..
Let's see, if I add 100% to 21 it gives me 121, If I take 121% to 21 it gives me 95,59. If you take away the VAT, you should pay 100. The clerk was right. The poor man could not explain it and little that you know about math, this is understood the first time. Sure there are things that make them smart but not this one.
So not a good deal?
I'm in getting a ps4 will it be worth it?
I got the Gopro White for 165 euros, super cheap ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hj7dt5IymO8
I went this afternoon to buy the 2.7 Ghz 21 ″ IMac. Not long ago I had seen it at 1.099 euros, and today, just the day without VAT, it was 1.199 euros. When I told the clerk, he told me they had that price because it was an offer. At no time did I see the word offer, and they had that price of 1.099 euros for a long time. So I have no choice but to think that they raised it conscientiously. They only had the exhibition one, of course I didn't take it with me. What seems strange to me is that none of the 3 media markt on my island, Gran Canaria, will have that model. Could it be that they are not interested in selling them at a discounted price?
If you want to buy something from Apple at the ISDs, go queue early to grab your item, or there will be nothing
In the last 2 days without VAT is what I have done and without problem I have taken an iPad and an iMac
All this taking away 21% from the price of the product
Still, Media Markt is the only one that carries all its products these days, including Apple
If you keep believing that, and keep buying the worst technology of all that is Apple, only for ignorant.
you are ignorant saying that apple is the worst technology you will know for sure that you speak and you have not tried it
Surely all of you do renderings of thousands of hours, you work mechanically modeling in 3D or you have a job that consists of editing super HQ to need an apple …….
I don't do all that, but I do want the computer to not fill up with junk libraries after 12 months and slow down the PC by 40%. That the battery lasted more than 4 hours and that the trackpad works as God intended.
Good that hahaha appleaddicts posh with no idea of computer science because the apple keda well
Hahaha I am a lover of technology and computer science, Apple is deceiving almost everyone, except as the user says, I laugh at janeiro, they are only useful for audiovisual editing, and more than anything because certain companies like Adobe put more effort in OS X .
Before a Mac, a thousand times a Microsoft Surface Pro 3, look at it and dribble
Hello, so much that it seems that you understand and are on the subject. Do you recommend any free mobile ??? budget: 120/160
Bq Aquaris E4, or Motorola Moto G
It's your fault for buying that garbage.
I join the list of "ALMOST FOOLS" deceived by ShitMarkt.
This past Friday June 4, 2014 I was at MierdaMarkt de Mallorca
to buy me some headphones for the PC. The price I paid was € 11.95.
I took advantage of the visit to look at a new mobile for my partner (something that already
I had studied) and because of the use that a Moto G 8 gigs gives it, it has plenty! Well then
that same Friday the phone was 139, xx € (I can't remember the decimals)
but I did not buy it because I did not feel like standing in the long queue for
to pay.
That same Friday they sent me the promotion to the email that next Monday
June 30 (2014) was the day without VAT !!! "What luck" I thought, I was glad
not having wanted to wait for that day !!!
Lucky? Whose? because mine was not ... I show up at the
Shit Markt, freaking out at how many people there were, and… Oh my god! (OMG
for those of us who don't know English ...) but if they have raised the price of the phone to
€ 169 (angry face smiley ;-D) will be XXXXX, XXXXX, XXXXX, XXXX and so on
XXXXX more. I stopped to think, “What if I saw the price wrong? It could also be…
You know what ”I said to myself,“ go look at the helmets! ” And again, Oh my god !! but yes
today they are worth € 14,95, not only more expensive for the fact of having the price
inflated, but more expensive because applying the famous discount they stayed in
€ 12,35, € 0,40 more than what I paid for them !!!!
I don't mean to say they do it with all products (ironic way
deactivated) but with the one that I bought and with which I had looked yes!
Conclusion: I (is
say Shitmarkt) I'm not stupid! But all of you YES !!!
VAT works like in real life. VAT taxes (as its name indicates) the added value, which is the final value that a consumer pays for that product. The problem is to determine when we are facing an act of consumption or a different act (I buy to use that good in my production process or buy to resell).
To solve this problem, the system adopted is quite simple: EVERYONE PAYS VAT. And that doesn't cause more than 16% VAT to be collected? no, because a system is used in which each company can deduct the VAT it has paid. With an example it looks better:
Suppose that we go one day in the field and we find a beautiful truffle, it has not cost us anything but we sell it for € 100 and obviously we have to charge VAT (as a good trader dedicated to the search for truffles) so the price which our client buys from us is € 116. We do the following: we have paid 0 VAT but we have charged € 16, so we have to pay the Public Administrations € 16.
Our client is a wholesaler who resells the truffle for € 300 and, of course, charges the corresponding VAT. In this case the final price would be € 348. The wholesaler would have paid € 16 in VAT and has just charged € 48 for what it has to pay the Public Administrations the difference, in this case € 32.
The person who buys that truffle is a prestigious chef who makes it and sells it for a value of € 500. Of course, it charges the corresponding VAT that would leave a final price of € 580, which is what the final consumer pays. The cook paid € 48 VAT and has just charged € 80, therefore he has to pay the Public Administrations € 32.
How much money is raised?
€ 16 paid by the one who finds the truffle, € 32 paid by the wholesaler and € 32 paid by the cook add up to € 80. Precisely € 80 is 16% of € 500, that is, it is € 16 of the added value of that truffle. Therefore we have here a way to collect VAT that makes it pay exactly 16% of the Added Value regardless of how many turns of a product and when it is finally delivered to the consumer.
Who really pays VAT?
Despite what it may seem, the VAT is not paid by the truffle finder, the wholesaler and the cook, they only deliver the money to the Public Administrations. In reality, the one who pays the VAT is the final consumer who pays 16% of the product and does not have the capacity to deduct it (the others gave only the difference between the VAT they had collected and the VAT they had paid, in other words, they deduct the VAT they pay).
In the game, VAT works exactly the same, the purchase of all products carries VAT (whether raw materials or finished products) and companies pay the VAT they charge less the VAT they pay.
But the price "without VAT" of mediamakt is the same as that of the website d apple, right? where is the discount?
Another one for your list of "almost fools" after spending the day without VAT for a couple of hours trying to buy a computer, I can make the purchase and 17 days later where is the laptop ??? Tired of waiting without any news of him, I decide to contact mediamarkt. Your reply:
Good afternoon Mrs. Alicia,
In relation to your order placed through our website during the Day without VAT, we inform you that due to a computer error the system allowed you to continue with the purchase process, however, we currently do not have stock of the products of your order.
For this reason and very sorry for any inconvenience this may cause you, we inform you that we have proceeded to cancel your order. We have also proceeded to make the payment of the total amount charged in the same means of payment used in the purchase.
Inform you that due to the non-availability of stock we have proceeded in accordance with what is specified in the terms and conditions of sale of the website.
It is not only the fact of the problems of the page, it is that on top of not telling me that they had no stock now they wash their hands they give me my money back and ale ... fuck me basically, I got a laptop with 16gb ram 1tb hard disk at a very good price and now magically out of stock. I find it shameful that a company like this treats its customers like this and neglects in this way ... incredible ...
Nothing can be done???
Mediamark, where is my laptop?
I will tell the unpleasant experience that I had today
with Mediamark's repair / returns service, and that of course
I will broadcast on all possible channels.
It turns out that taking advantage of Mediamark's VAT-free day (30
June of last summer), I decided to buy a laptop, more specifically a
Lenovo z510 whose real price was 799 euros and after deducting VAT I was
it was at 660 euros. No problem until in February the charger stops
function. I take it to Mediamark and they tell me that in two or three weeks, more or less, it will be ready. Already of those,
I ask the girl who attends me if she is not going to leave me a charger for not
be without the laptop during this time. He tells me no, that I would have to ask him
to Lenovo directly. I show him my discontent, say goodbye and leave. To the
20 days approx. They send me a text so that I can pick it up. All good, until
after a few days the battery starts to fail. I return to Mediamark, I comment
what happens and the same; They tell me I have to leave the laptop and the
charger, and that in 2 or 3 weeks they let me know. Well, almost a month has passed
until today a man from Mediamark calls me and comments in a sad voice (he reminded me
Carlos Arias Navarro announcing the death of Franco) that it is not possible
give me back my laptop. That there was a problem with lenovo and that lenovo them
takes long to give it back. This is all the information you give me for
explain to me why I won't get my laptop back. Continue saying that afterwards
over there and that they will show me a laptop from the store to replace mine.
I go to Mediamark, and I tell the girl who attends me what happens. Talk to him
manager (whom I did not see in all the time I was there, despite my
requests) and tells me to go where the computers that are going to teach me a
couple of them that are still a little better than mine. To all this, I ask
before the girl my receipt of repair, since I had given it to
to check it, and I tell him if you want to make a photocopy and
handed it to me. She tells me no, that she keeps that because they have authorized
the change for another laptop. I answer that I still have not accepted anything and
Please make a photocopy and give me the receipt. Without saying anything, he does.
I go to the computer boy. I tell him that I am the boy they have
lost the laptop, and he reluctantly shows me a laptop,
specifically a Lenovo z50 of just over 600 euros. I tell him no, that laptop
It is lower than mine, so he shows me another one that costs 950 euros. In short,
I say that my computer does not have that value and he tells me that they will give me a bonus
gift for the value of the laptop and if I want a better one I will have to pay the
difference. I go to the first girl who attended me and she tells me what they do to me
a bonus of 660 euros for the computer, a price below the real value of the
computer (799e, a computer that is 8 months old and that I have only enjoyed 5) forcing me
Well, to put money out of my pocket if I want one, at least, of the same characteristics.
I say no, give me the same or at least one with the same characteristics.
It tells me that it is what there is and another option is not feasible. I show you my
I disagree and tell them that they have lost my laptop, not me, that I did not
I have no fault. He replies that no, that the computer has not been lost, that
lenovo surely has not seen the repair feasible and they, in good faith,
they will provide another laptop. I tell him that if the computer has not been lost
please bring him to me. He says no, that it is not possible. Obviously
I answer that I am not going to go through the hoop, I give me a laptop with the
same characteristics as mine or that they give me a gift voucher for the value
real laptop. They refuse outright, and try to sell me the bike that the z50
it's even better than mine. So I tell her to please provide me with the characteristics
from the computer and ask an expert if it really is the same. Well there
the girl explodes and tells me no, that she is not going to facilitate anything, that that is not
your work and if I want you to give me a claim sheet and go to
consumption. Well, nothing, I tell her not to give me one to give me two, one for Mediamark
for consumption and another for her. After putting enough obstacles to
fill them out (he tells me that I can't get the sheet from the establishment, that I have
I have to fill out one before he gives me the other or to fill in one twice in
a Mediamark sheet), I felt remorse and not wanting to put a
claim to her, I tell her to please provide me with the characteristics of the laptop
z50, to which even in an aggressive tone he replies again that he will not
facilitate anything because it is not his job, to do what he wants. So i put it
a claim in your name. He even called the security guard,
saying that to see what happened to me that if I did not understand or something. Well that, I did
finally the claims and tomorrow I am about to take them to consumption. I
I look forward to seeing the manager. This one, like a rat, did not deign to leave his
hiding place from where he gave orders, despite asking twice for
the.
So watch out for Mediamark, which is not as pretty as
they want us to believe. And above all, be careful with the repair service and
with those insurance that they want to sell us, in which they promise that they will
give an equal or better item if ours is damaged (even some seller
He told me that after x time I throw it to the ground and they give me one equal or better
blah blah blah blah, to try to get them off.)
Hello, I'm sorry for what happened to you.
What I don't understand is that if you have paid € 660, you want them to give you € 799. It doesn't matter what its real price was, they have to return the money you paid. It is as if I bought a shirt in the sales for 5,95 , 12,95 and when I return it I tell them to give me the XNUMX it was originally worth. It doesn't make any sense.
It is a bitch that happens to you but understand that nothing is perfect that those things can happen. You had to have taken the money and not have made the partridge so dizzy.
Hello everyone. I would like to report one thing
Well, I'm good
months behind a computer macbook 13 ″ the new model of this year,
I was totally waiting for the day to come out without VAT. today and
entered the mediamarkt website and my surprise is that the macbook ke keria
it goes from being worth € 1320 to € 1419 !!!!
which makes me very angry ...
.. but the story does not end there, because in my mailbox at home there was
new publicity has come from these people who don't have a fool's hair,
the offer is that if you take your old computer they will discount you
€ 120 if you buy a mac worth more than € 1000
In other words, if I do the math and subtract the current price of the computer on 26/5/2015, it would be: 1419-120 = € 1299 !!!!!!!!
and now compare it with the price of yesterday 25/5/2015
which was € 1320 ………… .in short, the real discount is € 20
neither 120 nor 50 …… .. !!! € 20 !!!!
me
I would like to know what do you think of all this ... why do you laugh at the
folks, your main catchphrase is "I'm not stupid" but you really want to
say they are not stupid but you are ????
A year ago I bought a Samsung large flat screen TV, it looked great in the store and that's because they have high definition there. When I took it home it looked dark even with maximum brightness. I took it to half mark and they didn't give me another one, they took it to the technicians. Days later I went to pick it up and it was the same. I took it back and when I picked it up this second time I tried it in the same store, and it looked just as dark. The supposed head of the exchange told me that he was fine, arguing with him. So I asked for two complaint sheets, one for a half mark and the other to report the head of trade-offs as a liar. Finally they took the TV back to the technician and when they picked it up on the return sheet they confessed that it was wrong and that they had to change all the software, that is, the TV was not worth a potato. I took it with me, it was better and I ended up selling it to a relative and I vowed not to buy more in mediamark, because outlet products with defects put them in between those that are good
JAJAJAJAJAJA I laugh for not crying mediamarkt is the most fraudulent company that exists since 90% of its products are used products, and repaired of which they sell as if they were new without using because it has already happened to me and not just once but two and as a good saying that says two if three does not arrive. Apart from all the aforementioned, it is better to buy outside the BLACK FRIDAY offers since both they and many other companies cheat with prices because in reality they are not making any offers or lowering prices they charge you double something that then you go out of offers and get the same product even cheaper Spain cheats with the prices in many establishments that I see very badly the truth ...
As the same put offers 4 days without VAT that and nothing is like the one who has a cough and scratches his ass because to start any company being within what is SPAIN in this case ISLAS CANARIAS they should charge us the VAT as many canaries do not We pay VAT to see if you find out at once that you seem short-minded that goes to all the businessmen who pass through the forum and read that more than one you usually do, that's why IN THE CANARY ISLANDS YOU ARE LOSING MANY SALES IN GENERAL BECAUSE YOU SELL MORE EXPENSIVE THAT IS OUT OF SPAIN AND USES PRODUCTS OF WHICH ARE ALREADY DISCONTINUED.